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Is he supporting Rafa knowing that we are no longer a threat to him or the other big 2?
With the ****s in charge we are now in the mini league after the top 3, there is Liverpool, Villa, Tottenham, Everton possible Portsmouth and maybe Newcastle. All competitive teams with little to NO chance of ever winning the league.
Two points:
1/ While I think he is arrogant and some of the stances he takes (such as not talking to the BBC) are ****ish I think that Fergie is at heart an old school football man who wants things to be done in what he sees as the right way. I think he likes the battling of top clubs (admittedly while United win that tussle).
I suspect that the idea that Fergie only supports managers who present no threat is a case of false interpretation of a correlation as causation. He only ever supports a manager he feels is being treated badly - in general this happens to managers who at least in the short term are not getting the best results and frankly there is no need to support a manger who is doing well and has the full backing of everyone around him. I saw quotes today from him praising Wenger and saying how the board/manager interaction at Arsenal had been exceptional.
In this case Rafa is clearly under threat for reasons not to do with football which is clearly something no footballing man would like to see. Fergis for all his faults more often than not talks sense about footballing issues.
2/ Are you including Rafa as one of the '****s'? Because the statement as put could be criticising either him or the owners and maybe both share the blame.
1/ While I think he is arrogant and some of the stances he takes (such as not talking to the BBC) are ****ish I think that Fergie is at heart an old school football man who wants things to be done in what he sees as the right way. I think he likes the battling of top clubs (admittedly while United win that tussle).
I suspect that the idea that Fergie only supports managers who present no threat is a case of false interpretation as a correlation as causation. He only ever supports a manager he feels is being treated badly - in general this happens to managers who at least in the short term are not getting the best results and frankly there is no need to support a manger who is doing well and has the full backing of everyone around him. I saw quotes today from him praising Wenger and saying how the board/manager interaction at Arsenal had been exceptional.
In this case Rafa is clearly under threat for reasons not to do with football which is clearly something no footballing man would like to see. Fergis for all his faults more often than not talks sense about footballing issues.
2/ Are you including Rafa as one of the '****s'? Because the statement as put could be criticising either him or the owners and maybe both share the blame.
That's exactly, word for word, what I was going to say
Well said Dww
No, no, no.........I'm only scary 'cause I'm hairy
Big year for me 2008, hope it all goes well for me, oh, and you lot too!
1/ While I think he is arrogant and some of the stances he takes (such as not talking to the BBC) are ****ish I think that Fergie is at heart an old school football man who wants things to be done in what he sees as the right way. I think he likes the battling of top clubs (admittedly while United win that tussle).
I suspect that the idea that Fergie only supports managers who present no threat is a case of false interpretation of a correlation as causation. He only ever supports a manager he feels is being treated badly - in general this happens to managers who at least in the short term are not getting the best results and frankly there is no need to support a manger who is doing well and has the full backing of everyone around him. I saw quotes today from him praising Wenger and saying how the board/manager interaction at Arsenal had been exceptional.
In this case Rafa is clearly under threat for reasons not to do with football which is clearly something no footballing man would like to see. Fergis for all his faults more often than not talks sense about footballing issues.
2/ Are you including Rafa as one of the '****s'? Because the statement as put could be criticising either him or the owners and maybe both share the blame.
Yeah i suppose Iron Fergie may be mellowing in his old days.
No i am not including Rafa in the '****s' statement, With G&H in charge i can not see them giving Rafa or whoever the manager is the resources to be able to fully compete with the top 3.
I think I seen A Ferguson on the Kop on Monday night singing abt H & G!!!! All said and done I hate the Cunt but you can't argue with what he's saying. I go with him on this one.
When was the last time we were competition to the in terms of the league in all honesty
Under Roy Evans.
Even under Ged we were never really that close,2nd one year I know but I think it's been a long time since Fergie considered us a real threat in the league.
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