How optimistic are you?

[mersey86]

I'm normally optimistic, but all I see for the future is an abyss of despair. I don't see Rafa being here after the summer, so that pretty much is that. Grow old, watch us fund the Dallas Stars and die. I voted 1 in the poll, in case you didn't guess.

[CAD]

It will take time to rebuild after Moores. Live with it and wait.

[Morph]

has anyones opinion changed in the last 24hrs or so, given the refinancing deal, the more positive info on mascher and Rafa and the stadium images?

[Howard_lfc]

has anyones opinion changed in the last 24hrs or so, given the refinancing deal, the more positive info on mascher and Rafa and the stadium images?

Not one iota. The important stuff happens on the pitch and that has been nowhere near good enough for the last few months.

[mersey86]

Not one iota. The important stuff happens on the pitch and that has been nowhere near good enough for the last few months.

And is unlikely to return to what its capable of until we get a more settled set-up off the pitch - and I don't think that's going to happen.
I want .. Hicks out, good people in, 20 year contract for Rafa, then things will start looking good.

[Jennings]

You gotta admire Bob the charmer

[Gaz]

****ing bunch of Drama queens the lot of you,

Chill out, you'll live longer

[Johnny]

We are slowly becoming a middle of the table kinda team like Villa, Everton, Spurs

4th place is what we really play for each year

Maybe an FA Cup here or there

Maybe we should be looking for a new manager.he`s been brilliant in the CL but No19 is most important.Right enough,he`s had his hands tied in the transfer market compared to Fergie,Jose/Avram so i`m 50/50 on whether he should stay or go.His decisions have baffled me this season more than any other season.

[Johnny]

Poll above - 5 being most optimistic, 1 being least

Whether you're a glass half full or half empty person, if you're being as realistic and truthfull as possible, how optimistic are you about the future of Liverpool FC.

I don't know if it's just me, but i've got this overwhelming feeling of dread when thinking about the next few months of our great club. I'm normally quite an optimistic guy, but in the next few months we could/will see all of:

Club loaded with debt (no matter what the yanks say)
Mascherano gone
Rafa gone
No decent money for transfers (using this window as an indicator)
A stadium design we may/may not like
Continued disquiet at the club as fans refuse to back the owners
More debt heaped on the club when we need to start financing the stadium
The possible exit of some of our spanish players
The begining of a few more years of transition as a new manager builds his side

Of course the oposite could happen in every case, but it doesn't seem likely to me, but that might just be because of the general mood around the club at the moment.

Maybe we could just use this thread to air all our general grievances

Excuse me for trying to be a bit more optimistic ...

1. Not so much debt as people think right now. Could change as the refinance doesn't pay for the stadium. But a long mortgage, naming rights and £1m extra revenue a home match probably will
2. Has he? I get the impression he will stay if we pay for him. Why we selling Momo if Masher is also due to leave?
3. We will judge at the end of the season, but 2 good cup runs and a strong run in the Premiership to get 4th will probably keep his job. The yanks are stoopid but not that stoopid. No matter what Hicks is capable of.
4. We've broken our transfer record on a defender this transfer window. What do you want?
5. Looks OK to me. Not that different from the original HKS plans that everyone was raving about. In fact I think it looks pretty good. Why didn't they do this design in the first place?
6. If G&H shut up, make peace with Rafa and offer him a new contract, everything will quieten down considerably. But that new contract does appear unlikely.
7. Answered in point 1.
8. May be if Rafa goes. May be not. It depends who they bring in. Also, Torres has 5 1/2 years of a contract to run. I'd be surprised if he went anywhere and if he did it would be for obscene money. Reina and Alonso are replaceable, but I wouldn't like them to leave, especially Reina.
9. Is Avram Grant rebuilding? You don't gut a good team. Rafa stripped Houlliers squad because it was ****e. But Rafa's isn't.

Pretty much my take on things,Glass half full.

[Gaz]

9. Is Avram Grant rebuilding? You don't gut a good team. Rafa stripped Houlliers squad because it was ****e. But Rafa's isn't.

That ****e squad won us the CL give or take a few.

[disco]

has anyones opinion changed in the last 24hrs or so, given the refinancing deal, the more positive info on mascher and Rafa and the stadium images?

Reasonable improvement - the £45m being for future transfers NOT past transfers. Stadium looks good and is 71,000 not 60 or 65. Still, people can still paint a negative spin on both

Back down to Defcon 4 from Defcon 2 (most on the forum are on 1 = world war 3 ). Just got to wait and see what happens either in the next week or two (DIC) or the summer.

[Johnny]

That ****e squad won us the CL give or take a few.

Because our Manager knows European football.

[Johnny]

Reasonable improvement - the £45m being for future transfers NOT past transfers. Stadium looks good and is 71,000 not 60 or 65. Still, people can still paint a negative spin on both

Back down to Defcon 4 from Defcon 2 (most on the forum are on 1 = world war 3 ). Just got to wait and see what happens either in the next week or two (DIC) or the summer.

I`m with you mate,

































































Deathkiss for you then.

[disco]

I think I've made as many points as many times as I need to, think I'll just sit back and see what happens in the next fortnight (DIC twist?) and then the summer transfers.

I hope to bejesus that the game isn't marred tomorrow by more chanting DURING the game, but I can only hope....

[Johnny]

I think I've made as many points as many times as I need to, think I'll just sit back and see what happens in the next fortnight (DIC twist?) and then the summer transfers.

I hope to bejesus that the game isn't marred tomorrow by more chanting DURING the game, but I can only hope....

I got to that point in the "Dubai" thread,you`ll be back in this thread.