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    #1

    Liverpool since Evans

    have Liverpool as a club developed much since Evans was shafted to bring in Houliier. The Liverpool of Evans was a joy to watch,successful(compared to where we've finished in the league recently) and built on a consistant approach. When Evans put out a team you always knew every player knew their role ( Kuyt always looks like he isnt too sure where he's playing). Our forward play was fluid and quick and we scored a good few goals from set pieces ( something we havnt done much under Benitez other than Gerrard).
    Granted Evans was too loyal to some players such as James when he went to pieces in the 95/96 season but I think our seasoned pro's held him in high esteem( Barnes,Wright). Why he ever signed Ince was beyond me though as Ince was totally at odds with the system that Liverpool played under Evans.
    I think given some luck and slightly better judgement Evans would be up their with Shankly,Paisley and Daglish
    the sun gives life and it takes it away
    but like all the greats it will burn out some day
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    I think you just have to look at the cups won under Ged and Rafa since Evans left to see we have clearly been better and as a result more successful. The football under Evans may have been good but it didn't get us anywhere, just some classic games against a attacking Newcastle team.
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      #3
      Thing is, the premier league has developed and moved on massively over the last decade and i dont think that Roy Evans would have been able to keep up with Ferguson and Wenger. They were looking to bring in top players from abroad and had a head start. I dont think Roy would have managed to succeed.

      Sadly most of Houlliers signing were crap also. But the idea of change was the correct one for the sake of progression

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        #4
        Problem with Roy was he couldn't sort the defense and didn't know how to control the wayward spirits. Some strong personalities in that evans team, they gave him so awful stick.

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          #5
          Originally posted by -V- View Post
          Thing is, the premier league has developed and moved on massively over the last decade and i dont think that Roy Evans would have been able to keep up with Ferguson and Wenger. They were looking to bring in top players from abroad and had a head start. I don't think Roy would have managed to succeed.

          Sadly most of Houlliers signing were crap also. But the idea of change was the correct one for the sake of progression

          And a few great ones as well!

          Houllier was desperate towards the end.The football we played was dire i have to admit,but i truly believe he would of one us the league had he not been ill.

          He took a few gambles aswell.He cocked up with the Anelka situation,but only the benefit hignsight makes that clear.

          Diouf,Diao and Cheyrou were the downfalls of Houllier!
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          Bill Shankly.

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            #6
            The was only one problem with Roy - he was never backed by the board for signings. He was the only manager who has even come close to winning the premiership.
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              #7
              Originally posted by saj View Post
              The was only one problem with Roy - he was never backed by the board for signings. He was the only manager who has even come close to winning the premiership.
              He was, Collymore, record signing. Bought Babb, piechnik, and a whole squad of skando non-entities.

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                #8
                i thought he was backed by the board.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom View Post
                  He was, Collymore, record signing. Bought Babb, piechnik, and a whole squad of skando non-entities.
                  I think you'll find it was Souness who bought that piece of Danish ****e called Piechnik.
                  Evan was undermined in his pursuit of Sheringham,Roy Keane to name a few by Moores who refused to realise that football had moved on from the 80's.
                  Evans remember is the one Liverpool mananger in recent memory who was still in with a shout of the league with a few games left. His record on bringing through and supporting younger players was admirable and far beats anything Benitez has done in his 4 years at the club
                  the sun gives life and it takes it away
                  but like all the greats it will burn out some day

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by andyhanrahan View Post
                    I think you'll find it was Souness who bought that piece of Danish ****e called Piechnik.
                    Evan was undermined in his pursuit of Sheringham,Roy Keane to name a few by Moores who refused to realise that football had moved on from the 80's.
                    Evans remember is the one Liverpool mananger in recent memory who was still in with a shout of the league with a few games left. His record on bringing through and supporting younger players was admirable and far beats anything Benitez has done in his 4 years at the club
                    hmm, Benitez inherited a disaster of a youth set-up and a dysfunctional B team. He's been re-building ever since.

                    He also bought in number 5.

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                      #11
                      It's pointless comparing Evans Era with Rafa's. The Premiership has become far more difficult since then. Rafa's team today could have won the Premiership in Evans Era, our points tally in 2005/06 was good enough to win the Premiership in the 90's.
                      Dare we believe

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                        #12
                        Our youth system went to pot under Houllier who distrusted heighway and constantly undermined him( it is no coincidence that at this time the youth team set ups of man city and everton bloomed sigining up the best youths of merseyside who in previous generations had signed for Liverpool). Most of Benitez's youth signings have not a chance in making the grade-Goodwin antwi being a prime example trumpeted as a Desailly like figure when we signed him Hartlepool forums think he's ****e. El Zhar: a poor man's Mark Walters, . We have signed over 30 youth players since Benitez took over a good example of quantity over quality
                        the sun gives life and it takes it away
                        but like all the greats it will burn out some day

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                          #13
                          Some rose-tinted specs being worn here methinks. Evans was a lovely bloke and his teams were entertaining, but too many egos in the dressing room. Shame he couldn't have carried on in a coaching capacity as no man cares more about the club.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by andyhanrahan View Post
                            I think you'll find it was Souness who bought that piece of Danish ****e called Piechnik.
                            Evan was undermined in his pursuit of Sheringham,Roy Keane to name a few by Moores who refused to realise that football had moved on from the 80's.
                            Evans remember is the one Liverpool mananger in recent memory who was still in with a shout of the league with a few games left. His record on bringing through and supporting younger players was admirable and far beats anything Benitez has done in his 4 years at the club
                            The standard of the premiership was far inferior back then and the chances of bringing youth through the system easier. The modern premiership is driven by money and the pressure to keep your premiership status is immense. Theres 50 million reasons to stay up and the knock on effect is bringing in cheaper foreign players and not give youth a chance.
                            Dare we believe

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tom View Post
                              Problem with Roy was he couldn't sort the defense and didn't know how to control the wayward spirits. Some strong personalities in that evans team, they gave him so awful stick.
                              dont know how true this is but im sure mcateer said recently that it was a misconception that we a bad defense.

                              he said that we in fact always had the second best defensive record around that period?

                              i would have thought the same as you tom.

                              and as for the question,we havnt won the league but weve won trophy's,including the champions league.

                              i think its common knowledge that roy was to nice and loyal a man to manage liverpool.
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