Mascherano Signed!!!!

[Neil Young]

But he seems to have been far further forward at times recently than I remember him being when he first joined. He's been ahead of whoever else is in central midfield a lot - you only have to look at the number of times he's had a shot (which has usually wafted a long way wide). In fact, I've found it frustrating him being so far up the pitch while Alonso or, even more irritating, Gerrard has been holding back and covering for him.

[BFG]

what i don't understand is the idea of a midfielder who's only duties are defensive. i get the idea of a defensive midfielder - after all did seemed to do a great job but he did actually get forward and he did actually use the ball constructively in midfield - but in principle i'm against the extremly negative way that rafa uses him as opposed to the way he plays for argentina.

Ok fair enough I see what you're getting at now. To be fair though it's not just Rafa that does that, Houllier did it for years with Didi and it brought a balance to the midfield alongside Stevie.

I feel all the problems we have at the moment are due to a confidence crisis. A couple of wins and we'll start looking like a team again and hopefully that'll start this saturday.

[akjs123]

what i don't understand is the idea of a midfielder who's only duties are defensive. i get the idea of a defensive midfielder - after all did seemed to do a great job but he did actually get forward and he did actually use the ball constructively in midfield - but in principle i'm against the extremly negative way that rafa uses him as opposed to the way he plays for argentina.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Hyypia is slow as ****. Or maybe because it gives Gerrard more licence to bomb forward.
Lets clear up one thing though, Rafa has tried to use Masch as a ball winner high up the field with a high backline for a good pressing game. The injury to Agger changed everything.

[AFII]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Hyypia is slow as ****. Or maybe because it gives Gerrard more licence to bomb forward.
Lets clear up one thing though, Rafa has tried to use Masch as a ball winner high up the field with a high backline for a good pressing game. The injury to Agger changed everything.

[Maestro]

what i don't understand is the idea of a midfielder who's only duties are defensive. i get the idea of a defensive midfielder - after all did seemed to do a great job but he did actually get forward and he did actually use the ball constructively in midfield - but in principle i'm against the extremly negative way that rafa uses him as opposed to the way he plays for argentina.

Are you comparing our squad to Argentina's?

[badpiggy]

Are you comparing our squad to Argentina's?

not at all - but our negative approach doesn't compare to them so well.

[bobbyfallon]

just anounced on SSN that liverpool fc have denied reports that they have signed macherano on a permanent basis >>???

WHAT TO **** IS GOING ON AT OUR CLUB???

[paulc]

just anounced on SSN that liverpool fc have denied reports that they have signed macherano on a permanent basis >>???

WHAT TO **** IS GOING ON AT OUR CLUB???

Nothing... Sky made a statement last night that was not official and LFC cleard this up

[blacky]

The club probably cannot confirm the deal with out the FA rubber stamping the paperwork

[bobbyfallon]

Nothing... Sky made a statement last night that was not official and LFC cleard this up

fair enuf. so he has not signed yet then. ******* that

[Parm]

same sort of **** went on last year when we signed him, the deal wasnt rubber stamped till well after the window shut. Think with all the technicalities of MSi/third party ownership behind Mascher, it'll take some time to sort out and make sure nothing illegal/dodgy is going on.

[dww]

same sort of **** went on last year when we signed him, the deal wasnt rubber stamped till well after the window shut. Think with all the technicalities of MSi/third party ownership behind Mascher, it'll take some time to sort out and make sure nothing illegal/dodgy is going on.

[ivan]

That Kia is biggesst scum on earth

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

That Kia is biggesst scum on earth

Worse than Hicks, too!?

[Pablo]

But he seems to have been far further forward at times recently than I remember him being when he first joined. He's been ahead of whoever else is in central midfield a lot - you only have to look at the number of times he's had a shot (which has usually wafted a long way wide). In fact, I've found it frustrating him being so far up the pitch while Alonso or, even more irritating, Gerrard has been holding back and covering for him.

Spot on