DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[coop]

DIC wont spend crazy money but they also arent here purely for the cash because the amount of money they would make out of us is nothing compared to what they would get in another business.

Liverpool are one of the most famous football clubs in the world and would look great in the DIC portfolio of owning us.

[MrMichael]

The only thing that leans me toward the Arabs is the fact i don`t think they`ll put us in the debt the Yanks did and i hope they realise that investment in the team is investment in the club.will they throw silly money at the club,I`m not sure.hopefully the fact that they are fans will mean they are 50% businessmen and 50% fans concerning money.

On the assumption that they do take control, I don't think they will throw "silly money" at us, and neither do I think they, or anyone else, should. We should all want Liverpool Football Club to be financially sustainable - competitive in the market yes, but frankly I'd not be happy if we did go on a Chelski style spending spree, or started paying all sorts of average players 100k/week.

One would hope though that they would realise that to be as successful as they should want us to be, some significant immediate investment would be required. To be successful off the pitch we need to be successful on it, but all this has to be about a lot more than just money. Its got to be about who we trust to respect the heritage of the club and do things the right way, and as it doesn't seem we can really trust the current owners to do so, hopefully we'll be able to trust any future replacements more.

[carlton]

On the assumption that they do take control, I don't think they will throw "silly money" at us, and neither do I think they, or anyone else, should. We should all want Liverpool Football Club to be financially sustainable - competitive in the market yes, but frankly I'd not be happy if we did go on a Chelski style spending spree, or started paying all sorts of average players 100k/week.

One would hope though that they would realise that to be as successful as they should want us to be, some significant immediate investment would be required. To be successful off the pitch we need to be successful on it, but all this has to be about a lot more than just money. Its got to be about who we trust to respect the heritage of the club and do things the right way, and as it doesn't seem we can really trust the current owners to do so, hopefully we'll be able to trust any future replacements more.

What is silly money though? A lot of people say we are 3-4 quality players away from being competitive so that would be around 50 million pounds or a bit more, net?

[Guest]

On the assumption that they do take control, I don't think they will throw "silly money" at us, and neither do I think they, or anyone else, should. We should all want Liverpool Football Club to be financially sustainable - competitive in the market yes, but frankly I'd not be happy if we did go on a Chelski style spending spree, or started paying all sorts of average players 100k/week.

But they should back the manager they deem fit to lead this club to glory. Let's say Rafa asks for £ 50m pounds to sign Messi, they should back him. That's the spirit anyway.

But I doubt Rafa has any track record of signing big players though. He likes to build and invest in potential.

[MrMichael]

What is silly money though? A lot of people say we are 3-4 quality players away from being competitive so that would be around 50 million pounds or a bit more, net?

Hmmmm. That's a good question. I suppose an initial budget of £50m, followed by say, £25m/year, would be absolutely as much as we could hope for (or expect). Realistically, that's probably excessive still though.

The question for me is, should we be spending in a way that the club's income streams do not justify? Were DIC to massively improve our global marketing, and expedite the crucial construction of the new stadium, increased transfer funds would surely be more justified than they are at the moment.

But they should back the manager they deem fit to lead this club to glory. Let's say Rafa asks for £ 50m pounds to sign Messi, they should back him. That's the spirit anyway.

But I doubt Rafa has any track record of signing big players though. He likes to build and invest in potential.

Apart from Torres To an extent I agree, although I genuinely doubt we will be in that position for some years to come. Messi is arguably worth more than £50m in today's market so I guess that would be a sensible investment, but I do fear that in the event of a takeover, fan expectations are going to go so far through the roof again that no matter what is spent it will be seen as a let down in some quarters.

[carlton]

Hmmmm. That's a good question. I suppose an initial budget of £50m, followed by say, £25m/year, would be absolutely as much as we could hope for (or expect).

The question for me is, should we be spending in a way that the club's income streams do not justify? Were DIC to massively improve our global marketing, and expedite the crucial construction of the new stadium, increased transfer funds would surely be more justified than they are at the moment.



Apart from Torres To an extent I agree, although I genuinely doubt we will be in that position for some years to come. Messi is arguably worth more than £50m in today's market so I guess that would be a sensible investment, but I do fear that in the event of a takeover, fan expectations are going to go so far through the roof again that no matter what is spent it will be seen as a let down in some quarters.

we do need an immediate splurge though along the lines of the summer just gone and maybe even one more after that just to keep up with the quality of the other big teams and to stay ahead of an emerging pack. This with the improvement you'd expect from players like Babel and Lucas who are still just kids really would see us right. How good would it be though to know that when serious money is needed to get a special player or a special youngster that we'd be in for them for real?

[redheart]

DIC wont spend crazy money but they also arent here purely for the cash because the amount of money they would make out of us is nothing compared to what they would get in another business.

Liverpool are one of the most famous football clubs in the world and would look great in the DIC portfolio of owning us.

Nope! Remember what DIC stands for.

If they do intend to buy us they are not in it for prestige. They have enough already.

They would be in it for profit. Actually if they got things right they could turn a sizeable profit on the matter. If they get the commerical side of the club right, plus the new stadium they could flip the club for 600-700 million within 4 years. Thus a potential profit of 250 million.

They would not be in it for prestige or kudos. Profit only.

The only advantage I can see in DIC is that they would not have to borrow huge amounts to purchase the club or the stadium. Thus they would save a huge amount in interest and hence have a little more to invest in the club. But again not silly money.

[AFII]

Well, what I have been told is that Rafa or our new manager will be able to go for his first choice targets.

Winning is priority number one. Profits will come but it's a long term project.

Or like they would probably say.

Think big, think bigger.

[Lecter]

Nope! Remember what DIC stands for.

If they do intend to buy us they are not in it for prestige. They have enough already.

They would be in it for profit. Actually if they got things right they could turn a sizeable profit on the matter. If they get the commerical side of the club right, plus the new stadium they could flip the club for 600-700 million within 4 years. Thus a potential profit of 250 million.

They would not be in it for prestige or kudos. Profit only.

The only advantage I can see in DIC is that they would not have to borrow huge amounts to purchase the club or the stadium. Thus they would save a huge amount in interest and hence have a little more to invest in the club. But again not silly money.

There are far more profitable businesses than football that would give a better return on their money

In addition if they were solely about profit why didnt they take up the offer of purchasing shares in Arsenal, Newcastle and a host of other clubs?

Our club is going to be relatively expensive in the short and medium term for them

From what I am hearing they are prepared to run the club as a short term loss leader to compliment their other brands

[kris90210]

DIC are in it because they want a high profile sport club and we are the best available one. Italian teams don't sell to foreign owners, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal not available in the PL, Barca and Real not available in La Liga.

Add to that a team that has untapped potential - In my opinion thats why Hicks is so reluctant to let go.

[DannyMan2006]

Nope! Remember what DIC stands for.

If they do intend to buy us they are not in it for prestige. They have enough already.

They would be in it for profit. Actually if they got things right they could turn a sizeable profit on the matter. If they get the commerical side of the club right, plus the new stadium they could flip the club for 600-700 million within 4 years. Thus a potential profit of 250 million.

They would not be in it for prestige or kudos. Profit only.

The only advantage I can see in DIC is that they would not have to borrow huge amounts to purchase the club or the stadium. Thus they would save a huge amount in interest and hence have a little more to invest in the club. But again not silly money.

As you can see from David Moores struggles to sell the club, there aren't many people with the cash to buy into a football club who would be interested.

If we struggled to sell the club at £300m, it would be even harder to sell at £800m, which after buying out the Yanks and building the stadium DIC will have spent at least this amount.

Then there is the money they will spend on players........... It's fairly obvious that a club like LFC can be utilised to make big money with the right input, but when it comes to selling up, I think they would struggle.

Unless they sell % of the club to seperate parties.............

[serenejim]

Radio Merseyside are now reporting the due diligence by DIC process is to start at Anfield. They report the same problems with Hicks but this now seems a genuine runner. Although not final the fact that due diligence is taking place means both the yanks and DIC are in negotiation mode. They would not be allowed access to the books, nor would they seek access, unless a deal was being negotiated. The end is nigh-thank christ

[Jayesh87]

Everytime their is positive info in the press about the Yanks selling, it is always followed up by a denial.

*Milkman waits paitently*


Altho DIC have told Hicksy to stay quiet while talks are ongoing (likes thats going to happen )

[kris90210]

Nope! Remember what DIC stands for.

If they do intend to buy us they are not in it for prestige. They have enough already.

They would be in it for profit. Actually if they got things right they could turn a sizeable profit on the matter. If they get the commerical side of the club right, plus the new stadium they could flip the club for 600-700 million within 4 years. Thus a potential profit of 250 million.

They would not be in it for prestige or kudos. Profit only.

The only advantage I can see in DIC is that they would not have to borrow huge amounts to purchase the club or the stadium. Thus they would save a huge amount in interest and hence have a little more to invest in the club. But again not silly money.

Where's your proof dr??

Hypocrit :whatever:

[DannyMan2006]

Radio Merseyside are now reporting the due diligence by DIC process is to start at Anfield. They report the same problems with Hicks but this now seems a genuine runner. Although not final the fact that due diligence is taking place means both the yanks and DIC are in negotiation mode. They would not be allowed access to the books, nor would they seek access, unless a deal was being negotiated. The end is nigh-thank christ

Surely they are just repeating what is wrote by Oliver Kay in the Times?

Or do they have any new sources/information?