DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[kopdan]

I think we need to look at the situation. Hicks may not be going anywhere for some time. He's personally blamed Gillett for a number of things.

It may just be his way to be open in the press.

If reports of Hicks and Rafa getting on well are true, do you want Rafa out as well?

Do you think there is ANY chance that Hicks does actually want to do well by LFC?

I'm really interested to see what happens this summer should Hicks still be in charge. Would be nice to know what happens or could have happened.

[fred_plasticine]

look i am not about to go on the defense of hicks BUT he is a businessman as are DIC. They both believe that the ompany will be very profitable in the future, it was G and T who had the club to start with, now G wants out, why should he sel to DIC IF and we know they do,, they want complete control of the club and knowin the way dubai companies operate will use dirty tricks, cash, cash and more cash to run Hicks out od the club. He would be mental to go into business with them, IF he can find another rich mate to fund it instead.

Both Hicks and DIC have got there own interests at heart, they havent become multi-billionares by not looking after there own interests that is for a fact!!!!

again, i agree with you.
this is the last time i'll say cause it's probably pointless anyway as people only see what they want to.
dic are using the fan thing to win us over and don't take a hard look at them and it seems they're succeeding even though the g&h era should have taught us a lesson.
people seem to forget that they regarded us as a business opportunity as well even to the extent of drawing up plans to sell us on in 7 years time.
even if they care about us they care about their business first and will do whatever it takes to make money out of the club. sweet they might talk but didn't g&h say all the right things?
make no mistake, they are not abramovitch who's simple bored and enjoying himself.
and finally, imho it just wouldn't feel right if someone stepped in to throw money at us and buy all those kakas in the world.

[red g]

Bloody hell, & you said above you weren't going to come to the defence of Hick's. Quoting HIM is not imo proof of his intentions.

but you did say hicks has said he isnt bothered about winning....all i wanted to show you was that the press is an evil tool and can be interpreted many ways *








* this is in no way coming to the defence of Mr Hicks

[red g]

Spam

wow!!! 100 pages on and your a bigger **** then when you started, sir i salute you

[Vermilion]

but you did say hicks has said he isnt bothered about winning....all i wanted to show you was that the press is an evil tool and can be interpreted many ways *








* this is in no way coming to the defence of Mr Hicks

And there's me thinking the press ALWAYS tells the truth, thanks for that. It's all so clear now.

[barnes10]

Hicks and DIC have the same goal. To build us up to a 1billion asset.

This requires success on the pitch and a 70k seater stadium and a better business model all of which is the way to maximise their REVENUES (not necessarily profits) and to to 'exploit our brand'. We have potentially the best brand in the world as we are the most successful club historically in what is - emphasised by the current CL campaign - the best league in the world. so its easy that with the right moves, we can be the most valuable club in the world in the next 5 years.

thats what both of them are after and yes, once there, they'll probably look to sell us. The point is that Hicks will be extremely risky because he is a leverage merchant DIC on the other hand own banks and have a huge pool of money to make this happen with relatively little stress on the club. As Lecter has highlighted, running something like a football club at a loss can have some great tax benefits to a company such as DIC as well as the emblem of success that Dubai would like to be associated with.

All in all. As long as they get us to be the best clubm I don't care who takes us there. I am ready to believe that Gillett was the main person crippling the club since we knew from the start that he hadn't enough cash. that was the reason for hicks in the first place. so he's clearly the main problem and hicks isnt lying there. what is also clear is that hicks is not nearly as powerful financially as DIC. thats it and that's the only difference between them and why we should choose DIC. Anything else is flawed i reckon.

Sure hicks has a history of bankruptcy, but most self made millionaires will also. His sth american ventures are often portrayed as a consipracy rather than investments gone wrong. that happens in business. Of course he should try to use the banks money and ring fence himself personally. The man has a lot to lose. we'd all do the same.

So DIC is less risk and have greater ability to pull it off than hicks. and thats it.

[AFII]

It very quickly becomes crystal clear that Tom Hicks is not just concerned about making money; he’s equally concerned with winning trophies and providing excellence for the players and the fans. If the past eleven years with the Dallas Stars are a fair representation of Tom Hicks’s attitudes to his sports enterprises, then we have nothing to worry about. This is a man who wants what’s best for Liverpool FC, which is simply to put us back at the top where we belong.

Must be why he sacks anyone who speaks up against him. He isn't concerned about winning trophies at all. Profits comes way before he even start to think about winning any trophy.

I wonder why he turned down a fan representative if he want what is best for LFC?

[Scratch]

Must be why he sacks anyone who speaks up against him. He isn't concerned about winning trophies at all. Profits comes way before he even start to think about winning any trophy.

I wonder why he turned down a fan representative if he want what is best for LFC?

And the best way to maximise profits? To be successful. That means winning.

And personally, i think the fan representitve **** was just that, a **** pr gimmick. Especially as DIC would probably have picked someone to be their yes man.

[red g]

Must be why he sacks anyone who speaks up against him. He isn't concerned about winning trophies at all. Profits comes way before he even start to think about winning any trophy.

I wonder why he turned down a fan representative if he want what is best for LFC?

but i dont think a fan rep on the board would be a good thing.....he may be privvy to certain stuff that may get out due to leaks etc.

I think monthly meetings with fan reps would be far more productive!!!

[Jennings]

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Do you think there is ANY chance that Hicks does actually want to do well by LFC?

Yes.

[AFII]

And the best way to maximise profits? To be successful. That means winning.

And personally, i think the fan representitve **** was just that, a **** pr gimmick. Especially as DIC would probably have picked someone to be their yes man.

The best way to maximize profits is to spend as little as you can and get in as much money as you can. Texas Rangers and Dallas Stars is two good examples of that. That don't mean that the team must be a winning team.

but i dont think a fan rep on the board would be a good thing.....he may be privvy to certain stuff that may get out due to leaks etc.

I think monthly meetings with fan reps would be far more productive!!!

I think that a fan representative would be a good thing IF they get in the right one.

[fred_plasticine]

The best way to maximize profits is to spend as little as you can and get in as much money as you can. Texas Rangers and Dallas Stars is two good examples of that. That don't mean that the team must be a winning team.



I think that a fan representative would be a good thing IF they get in the right one.

the fan rep is a pretty cheesy part of their deceiving game to proof that they're the good guys. hicks declined that he didn't want a fan rep on board btw. constant dialogue with supporters' groups would much better imho.

[Vermilion]

The best way to maximize profits is to spend as little as you can and get in as much money as you can. Texas Rangers and Dallas Stars is two good examples of that. That don't mean that the team must be a winning team.



I think that a fan representative would be a good thing IF they get in the right one.

As do i, i also think that the speed in which Hicks came out to deny it was even proposed by Dic is telling. A famous man once wrote 'thou does protest too much'. ( maybe with different spelling though ).

Is it me, or has support for Hicks suddenly increased overnight. So many negative posts on DIC, & opinions on how Hicks MAY be good for us. What's changed. As i say it could be me just having missed these pro Hicks posters in the past.

[red g]

As do i, i also think that the speed in which Hicks came out to deny it was even proposed by Dic is telling. A famous man once wrote 'thou does protest too much'. ( maybe with different spelling though ).

Is it me, or has support for Hicks suddenly increased overnight. So many negative posts on DIC, & opinions on how Hicks MAY be good for us. What's changed. As i say it could be me just having missed these pro Hicks posters in the past.

I am not negative on DIC, I just think the Hicks Critiscism has gone way overboard......I am more pro hicks the more it seems it was gillett holding it all back.

Having been in a few **** business partnerships myself i know how easy it is to get tarred with the same brush.

[Vermilion]

I am not negative on DIC, I just think the Hicks Critiscism has gone way overboard......I am more pro hicks the more it seems it was gillett holding it all back.

Having been in a few **** business partnerships myself i know how easy it is to get tarred with the same brush.

The only evidence that Gillette has held anything back seems to be coming from Hicks. As i said, this was all very predictable. Hicks has spent only borrowed money, that must be paid back with crippling effect, he does'nt have the resources to move us on, so we are now left in the same position with the club being Tarted round America to find an investor that will let him do WHAT HE LIKES WHEN HE LIKES.

Rafa knows that if he so much as moans about funds in the future he will be gone, the sooner Hicks is gone the better imo, sooner being the operative word, because if we as some suggest give him a chance, see what happens in the future, he will have his legs firmly under the table, try getting rid of him then.