DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[coop]

Why are people so desperate to get into bed with DIC, kettle and frying pan spring to mind, ****ing vultures after a quick profit.

Not sure about the quick profit as if they wanted to do that they would go after a far more lucrative business then Liverpool Football Club.

Like its been posted having the prestige of having Liverpool Football Club in their portfolio will open many more doors for DIC.

They can make cash off Liverpool but for this to happen we have to be successful on and off the field which i would imagine would suit us.

Whoever buys us are going to want to make cash off us but like Ansari himself has said if the were purely interested in Liverpool to make money they can make far more cash with other ventures.

Under DIC there would be nothing stopping us getting the stadium built asap as they have the resources there ready.

They wouldnt be needing to agree to stupid interest payments because the banks are reluctant to lend them money.

[lfc1394]

Why are people so desperate to get into bed with DIC, kettle and frying pan spring to mind, ****ing vultures after a quick profit.

How could they possibly sell us for a quick profit?
I don't see a queue of ****ing buyers out there?
G&H are asking over the odds for the club.
Why are DIC that bothered, there are easier ways to make money (like they ****ing need the money anyhow) and believe it or not there are more prestigious sporting establishments than LFC.

For some reason they want us badly, I want to hope that it's because they have some ounce of respect for what LFC stand for and are as ashamed as we are by the goings on. It's more than likely something we do not / cannot understand at this time. But whatever way we look at it they are going to be better than G&H, simply from a financial stability point of view.

[frank the tank]

eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..................sack Parry???!?

[MattB]

eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..................sack Parry???!?

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[Vermilion]

How could they possibly sell us for a quick profit?
I don't see a queue of ****ing buyers out there?
G&H are asking over the odds for the club.
Why are DIC that bothered, there are easier ways to make money (like they ****ing need the money anyhow) and believe it or not there are more prestigious sporting establishments than LFC.

For some reason they want us badly, I want to hope that it's because they have some ounce of respect for what LFC stand for and are as ashamed as we are by the goings on. It's more than likely something we do not / cannot understand at this time. But whatever way we look at it they are going to be better than G&H, simply from a financial stability point of view.

Nice one, As you say not exactly a quick profit is it. I saw that post AFII put on about the Sheik, 60minutes interview/show about him, & a lot of the amazing stuff he does, he does because he can, his answer to 'why build the Tallest Building' was....."Why Not.

[AFII]

Nice one, As you say not exactly a quick profit is it. I saw that post AFII put on about the Sheik, 60minutes interview/show about him, & a lot of the amazing stuff he does, he does because he can, his answer to 'why build the Tallest Building' was....."Why Not.

Think big, think bigger

[Bender]

Not sure if this has been posted as i can't be bothered going through 9.5 million pages.
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The emergency bail out of American bank Bear Stearns is being linked to renewed confidence from Dubai International Capital that Tom Hicks is ready to discuss selling Liverpool.

The Times says the likelihood of Hicks being forced to sell his stake in the club to DIC increased over the weekend as the Texan - whose co-ownership of Liverpool is highly leveraged - felt the pinch of the worsening credit crisis in the wake of the emergency bailout of Bear Stearns, the American investment bank, which is to be bought by JP Morgan, the financial services firm, for 6 per cent of its market value.

Publicly, Hicks maintains that he has no intention of selling his half-stake in the club, but DIC is thought to be confident that a deal can be struck with him and George Gillett that would see the private equity investment arm of the Dubai government take over ownership at Anfield.

[MattB]

Bored of the lack of info, so thought I'd indulge in some pointless speculation...

It's pretty clear to me that talks are ongoing:
- No DIC response to Hicks' comments re talks are over
- Soon after the **** hit the fan re 'leaking to the media' a high profile DIC exec was gone (smacks of sacrificial lamb to appease Hicks to me - 'He leaked it. He's gone. We are now watertight, so let's talk.')
- The silence from DIC and Hicks is deafening, which suggests a media blackout
- Gillett's recent comments seemed designed to put pressure on Hicks

[Vermilion]

Think big, think bigger

I've been doing that mate, but i'm back to Dreaming about it for now, till it's done. I totally believe that DIC would have great plans for liverpool fc if they could only get rid of Hicks. I just don't know, or i'm getting worried that, they may not shift the ****.

Although i've been off line for 4-5 days with a phone line down, so i dont know what i've missed, not much by the looks of it after a quick scan of the posts, except GG saying he wont sell anything to Hicks. I'll need to have a look.

[Darkon]

Not sure if this has been posted as i can't be bothered going through 9.5 million pages.
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The emergency bail out of American bank Bear Stearns is being linked to renewed confidence from Dubai International Capital that Tom Hicks is ready to discuss selling Liverpool.

The Times says the likelihood of Hicks being forced to sell his stake in the club to DIC increased over the weekend as the Texan - whose co-ownership of Liverpool is highly leveraged - felt the pinch of the worsening credit crisis in the wake of the emergency bailout of Bear Stearns, the American investment bank, which is to be bought by JP Morgan, the financial services firm, for 6 per cent of its market value.

Publicly, Hicks maintains that he has no intention of selling his half-stake in the club, but DIC is thought to be confident that a deal can be struck with him and George Gillett that would see the private equity investment arm of the Dubai government take over ownership at Anfield.

Can anyone explain to me what Bear Stearns has to do with Hicks?? As far as I know, his loan is with RBS and Wachovia, so why is this important???

[Vermilion]

Not sure if this has been posted as i can't be bothered going through 9.5 million pages.
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The emergency bail out of American bank Bear Stearns is being linked to renewed confidence from Dubai International Capital that Tom Hicks is ready to discuss selling Liverpool.

The Times says the likelihood of Hicks being forced to sell his stake in the club to DIC increased over the weekend as the Texan - whose co-ownership of Liverpool is highly leveraged - felt the pinch of the worsening credit crisis in the wake of the emergency bailout of Bear Stearns, the American investment bank, which is to be bought by JP Morgan, the financial services firm, for 6 per cent of its market value.

Publicly, Hicks maintains that he has no intention of selling his half-stake in the club, but DIC is thought to be confident that a deal can be struck with him and George Gillett that would see the private equity investment arm of the Dubai government take over ownership at Anfield.

Can anyone explain to me what Bear Stearns has to do with Hicks?? As far as I know, his loan is with RBS and Wachovia, so why is this important???

All i can think is that it is yet more confirmation of what a dire state the finances of some American businesses are in, ergo Hicks must be in the same bad state, i keep hearing this but he's STILL here annoying us, not yet forced to sell up & ship out.

[MattB]

Can anyone explain to me what Bear Stearns has to do with Hicks?? As far as I know, his loan is with RBS and Wachovia, so why is this important???

As I understand it...

Hicks loans are secured with personal guarantees, using his assets as partial security. As the US economy slides, so the value of those guarantees/assets goes down. That affects his standing as a lending risk.

Also, given Hicks is a leveraged buy-out specialist, the fact that leveraged equity is fast turning to **** also weakens his position - his assets will be dropping in value at an alarming rate right now

[pezzzer]

the fact the media bitch slapping has stopped is a good thing, it means there talking the takeover through imo.

hicks was trying to get ivestors in to his sports group remember, so publicly getting ****ed up the arse by DIC wasnt going to get him many takers for his sports company shares now was it!

fact is gillet wants to sell, dic want to buy
hicks's veto is running out and his dollars/ivestments are getting FUBAR'd by the credit crisis in the states.

i suspect the deal is done for 100% but hicks is now negotiating the time to allow it public.

[MattB]

hicks was trying to get ivestors in to his sports group remember, so publicly getting ****ed up the arse by DIC wasnt going to get him many takers for his sports company shares now was it!

For me, that is the main complicating factor. Hicks is trying to prop up his US investments and is scared of the impact a sale of LFC, or going public on the finances in the way Gillett has, will have on that process

[Darkon]

All i can think is that it is yet more confirmation of what a dire state the finances of some American businesses are in, ergo Hicks must be in the same bad state, i keep hearing this but he's STILL here annoying us, not yet forced to sell up & ship out.

As I understand it...

Hicks loans are secured with personal guarantees, using his assets as partial security. As the US economy slides, so the value of those guarantees/assets goes down. That affects his standing as a lending risk.

Also, given Hicks is a leveraged buy-out specialist, the fact that leveraged equity is fast turning to **** also weakens his position - his assets will be dropping in value at an alarming rate right now

So basically, this is just more speculation, with no acutal new information Guess even the media etc. is getting a bit desperate with posting news on this...