scum get beat season all over for lfc

[rubyred]

We'll be fine. We just need a bit of luck and a couple of wins under our belt. We started last season badly and finshed like a train so let's hope the same happens.

The same could happen Red.

Why though can't we make a decent and convincing start to the season? I was worried during the pre-season games when we seemed unable to score against the teams we came against then, and we don't seem to have improved much since then (apart from the Charity Shield game).

It's really galling to see our main rivals start off at high speed, while we languish down in 15th place.

[Red_Polo]

Relax. We'll win the league.

[MrMichael]

i think you fella's are misundertanding my post my point is that anybody who thinks lpools season is all over is a load of bollocks,

No, got that, we're having a go at the Sky tagline you reported mate, not you

[Red_Al_77]

The same could happen Red.

Why though can't we make a decent and convincing start to the season? I was worried during the pre-season games when we seemed unable to score against the teams we came against then, and we don't seem to have improved much since then (apart from the Charity Shield game).

It's really galling to see our main rivals start off at high speed, while we languish down in 15th place.

The team is very unsettled at the moment. I would have expected Rafa to at least know who he feels should play on the wings. SG underpinned our early season start last season but he has been average so far this season. It doesn't help when he is played on the left. Reina, Finnan, Carra, Agger, Aurelio, SG, Alonso, Momo, Speedy, Kuyt, Bellamy is our most attacking line up but we haven't seen it yet. We are very laboured in our approach and despite all this perceived pace we have bought it I've seen no lightening counterattacking play to speak of. The start to the season has been difficult but if we want to be taken seriously then we really need to win our next couple of games. Anything else and the knives will be out in the press and confidence will be rock bottom.

[Morph]

It's an easily viable prospect, if we do win on weds that'll put us on 7 points, 6 from the top. If we can beat Man U in October whilst maintaining good overall form by the time we play Pompey in November we could be vying for top of the table. This of course will depend on a Chelsea slip up or them getting beat by the mancs, which providing we beat the mancs will work out fine.

[joyno]

No, got that, we're having a go at the Sky tagline you reported mate, not you

thank fuk for that getting banned from kraptalk i can take but getting ignored on here would enhance my confidence no end

[puredale]

Looking at the last ten seasons of Premiership football there is now a case for suggesting that Liverpool will struggle to be champions. It seems that season after season the start the eventual champions get is better and better, but this is largely illusory. The fact is that Liverpool have started slower than is usual for recent champions and a string of wins is now needed to bring them back into contention.

Last season Chelsea got off to a flying start winning nine and drawing one game – but that is exceptional. In the previous nine seasons, the eventual champions won five, six or seven of their opening ten games. But only once (Manchester United in 2002/3) have a team lost twice in their opening ten games and gone on to be champions.

After only one home game it is wrong to write Liverpool off, but one win, one draw and two defeats is not the usual start of champions. If Liverpool can go unbeaten for the next six games – winning say five of them then they will be in the kind of position that recent champions have found themselves in ten games into the season.

Looking at the first ten fixtures for Liverpool you would expect that the four home games will be won. Liverpool usually beat Spurs and Villa at home, Newcastle rarely travel well and Blackburn are struggling. The two away fixtures will be pivotal. Bolton Wanderers and Manchester United away matches are tough games – two draws would not be bad results.

Liverpool First 10 Games 2006/7

Sheffield United (A) Drawn
West Ham United (H) Won
Everton (A) Lost
Chelsea (A) Lost
Newcastle United (H)
Tottenham Hotspur (H)
Bolton Wanderers (A)
Blackburn Rovers (H)
Manchester United (A)
Aston Villa (H)

If Liverpool win their four home fixtures and draw in Bolton and Manchester then they will be at the bottom end of the kind of points tally historically accrued by subsequent champions. Only Manchester United in 2002/3 have won the title in the past decade with only 18 points from their opening ten fixtures – and then they went on to win just about every match after Christmas to pip Arsenal.

Eventual Champions First 10 Games

2005/6 Chelsea W9 D1 L0 28pts
2004/5 Chelsea W7 D2 L1 23pts
2003/4 Arsenal W7 D3 L0 24pts
2002/3 Manchester United W5 D3 L2 18pts
2001/2 Arsenal W5 D4 L1 19pts
2000/1 Manchester United W6 D3 L1 21pts
1999/2000 Manchester United W6 D3 L1 21pts
1998/9 Manchester United W6 D3 L1 21pts
1997/8 Arsenal W6 D4 L0 22pts
1996/7 Manchester United W5 D4 L1 19pts

Maybe this year will see the title won with fewer points than normal. But, if history is any guide, if Liverpool want to be in the shake-up next March they must go on an unbeaten run – preferably stringing together a series of wins – and that run has to start now.

Antony Melvin
18 September 2006

[red g]

I think the champions will win the league this season with around eighty points. we finished on 82 last year with a crap start.

[Depth_Charge]

We're out of it according to Sky, yet Arsenal are 'right back in it' - we're a point behind Arsenal FFS. Sky are always trying to sensationalise things - there is no voice of reason.

[Redspin]

Think the pont is that the Man U v Arsenal game was end to end, exciting, free flowing football. It was a good game that either side could have won.

So far this season we have not acheived anything like that sort of level.

Well Arsenal have struggled against Villa and Boro at home and United had played three strugglers and also scraped through against spurs who haven't scored for over 5 hours, so I don;t worry too much about matching up to either of them

We'll finish ahead of both teams - trust me