Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

How would they get on?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    How would they get on?

    If Rafa's wish were to be granted and we were allowed to field a reserve team in a lower division (say the current Division One), how do you think this team would do:

    Martin; Darby, Hobbs, San Jose, Insua;
    Anderson, Spearing, Lucas, Hamill
    Nemeth, Ecclestone

    Subs: Pacheco, Bruna, Huth, Leto, Ryan

    Would it be better for them than reserves and loan deals?
    I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

    #2
    Originally posted by mersey86 View Post
    If Rafa's wish were to be granted and we were allowed to field a reserve team in a lower division (say the current Division One), how do you think this team would do:

    Martin; Darby, Hobbs, San Jose, Insua;
    Anderson, Spearing, Lucas, Hamill
    Nemeth, Ecclestone

    Subs: Pacheco, Bruna, Huth, Leto, Ryan

    Would it be better for them than reserves and loan deals?
    Obviously, never going to happen in a million years though.

    Who the **** is Ryan?

    Lucas is a first team player, and wouldn't be in and 'B' team. Stick Plessis (sp?) in.

    Also it's Eccleston and he hasn't even graduated the Academy yet so he wouldn't be in any Reserve team.

    The team would probably be mid table or near the drop zone if they were in the Championship.

    Comment


      #3
      league 2 game v the giants of York city
      Cheers

      Subby

      www.lewcose.com Diabetes technology to make life easier

      www.subbytech.com - Use your "est" discount code to get 15% off everything in the store too

      MetalliGear Neo Qube : Ryzen 7950x : x870 Tomahawk : 32GIG DDR5 6000Mhz : Sapphire 7900 : 850w G2 : CableMod custom cables : Win 11 : Subbytech.com

      Comment


        #4
        Considering where they go on loan I reckon around top-half of League 2.

        Comment


          #5
          OK. A couple of mistakes. By Ryan, I meant Flynn. Replace Eccleston with El Zhar, Lucas with Plessis, add Putterill to the list and obviously another goalkeeper. Would the English mentality mean that a bunch of younger players would be likely to get a bit of a kicking?
          I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

          Comment


            #6
            I think to put any young team in the lower leagues they would struggle to do well against the more experienced lower leagues sides first choice team, regardless of technical ability because they lack any players with experience.

            It could either aid their development in gaining experience quickly, or shatter confidence (depending on players characteristics)
            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

            Comment


              #7
              If it were in a proper league, playing competitive football, it would include anyone at the club who was good enough, outside the first team, i.e. including the kids.

              I think they've do alright. Championship doesn't sound unreasonable.
              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

              Comment


                #8
                Watching them last night against quite a strong Sunderland team, I'd say they'd do OK. I'm not saying the likes of Yorke, Harte and Stokes put in their best performances last night, but the kids didn't look overwhelmed at all...
                The above facts belong to everybody; the opinions to me; the distinction is yours to draw...

                Comment


                  #9
                  I think they would do okay but would need a few hard leaders in there - I would imagine they would get top half of league one perhaps without. The point is though that the aim is to be a learning experience and they would IMO be better off with some players to learn from especially at the lower levels the things that need to be learned are how to handle rough matches without a strong referee.

                  Other than that I think that an old head helps players to learn game management in terms of how to close out a win etc. The trouble is finding the right person - I would imagine that in recent years older players like McAllister could have been used in that role and then eased into a management position.

                  Without a few precautions I think exposing a team of young players to a competitive league could do damage to as many as it helped. Handled correctly I think it would be a real boon in terms of player development though.
                  "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                  -- William Blake

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Good post dww. I agree that a few experienced heads would be needed to guide the youngsters.
                    I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      The trouble is, what club would be willing to pay the wages of an experienced player to play with the kids in league two for example and what players would want to spend the twilight of their careers in the bottom division? I know there are some older players playing in lower leagues but I'm sure the players would need to do themselves justice.
                      Twin boys - now arriving late August 2008.

                      Its gonna be Fernando and Gerrard if I get my way!

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Originally posted by andyinswinton View Post
                        The trouble is, what club would be willing to pay the wages of an experienced player to play with the kids in league two for example and what players would want to spend the twilight of their careers in the bottom division? I know there are some older players playing in lower leagues but I'm sure the players would need to do themselves justice.
                        A lot of older former PL players end up in the Championship and below and there are a lot of old-pros who never do better than the Championship who would still be excellent in a mentoring role. I think that if you had the money to pay decent wages and/or offered to give them coaching opportunities the job could be quite attractive. The point is that if the team was our feeder team then we would pay the wages to the older player - on the basis that frequently the sort of player who would do it would be on a deal probably not incomparable with the sort of wages we would pay a reserve team player now.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Originally posted by andyinswinton View Post
                          The trouble is, what club would be willing to pay the wages of an experienced player to play with the kids in league two for example and what players would want to spend the twilight of their careers in the bottom division? I know there are some older players playing in lower leagues but I'm sure the players would need to do themselves justice.
                          Hyypia would be that type of player. We need him as backup, he'd still get first team games and would be able to work on his match sharpness during the regular season. THere are many others on the fringes of the first team that would benefit from the same, as leto and insua are doing right now.
                          The Crushing Machine MKII

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Originally posted by The_Milkman View Post
                            Obviously, never going to happen in a million years though.

                            Who the **** is Ryan?

                            Lucas is a first team player, and wouldn't be in and 'B' team. Stick Plessis (sp?) in.

                            Also it's Eccleston and he hasn't even graduated the Academy yet so he wouldn't be in any Reserve team.

                            The team would probably be mid table or near the drop zone if they were in the Championship.
                            eccleston scored for the reserves last week.
                            who's arsed?

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Originally posted by shanks69 View Post
                              eccleston scored for the reserves last week.


                              Some of the players that is good enough will play both for the reserves and the youth team to get enough games. If they only play for one of them then they will only play something like two or three games a month and that isn't enough.
                              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X