The 'where are they now?' files

[Shaggy]

The capitalisation of 'Black' is something I learned about recently too.

[Paul12]

...it's the '-ed' bit that's perceived as outdated. Person or people of colour is used widely by mainstream media both here and internationally, whereas the term coloured is seen as a 70's hangover term and more likely to be seen as offensive. Nuance, I guess.

I agree the "-ed" bit is a complete no no, but PoC is a marmite term. In some countries - and the US seems to be one - it is widely used and accepted (two different things) but in others - including the UK nowadays - it has a bit of a smell and is perhaps best avoided.

I used to hate calling a person 'a black person' because only their skin was dark, not their heart. I wanted to use black-skinned person but my Black friends tell me they hate that and that they much prefer Black with a capital because then it is not a literal description.

Complex and nuanced, but it is really good that we feel able to talk about race.

[Tribute]

Fair enough. Friend of mine in Liverpool (Pakistani background) has always said to me he and his family find it (or the term coloured) offensive and they prefer the term brown if colour has to be used.


Think it boils down to what a person or persons find offensive though and is something that people will accept being said in good faith but would then take offence if it was said again to them by the same person after they explained they found it offensive. Least that's how it was put to me.

...it's the '-ed' bit that's perceived as outdated. Person or people of colour is used widely by mainstream media both here and internationally, whereas the term coloured is seen as a 70's hangover term and more likely to be seen as offensive. Nuance, I guess.

[Doc_Piptorious]

'Person/people of colour' (POC) is acceptable and widely used in the UK. It's 'coloured' that is outdated.

https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/person-of-colour

Fair enough. Friend of mine in Liverpool (Pakistani background) has always said to me he and his family find it (or the term coloured) offensive and they prefer the term brown if colour has to be used.


Think it boils down to what a person or persons find offensive though and is something that people will accept being said in good faith but would then take offence if it was said again to them by the same person after they explained they found it offensive. Least that's how it was put to me.

[Shaggy]

'Person/people of colour' (POC) is acceptable and widely used in the UK. It's 'coloured' that is outdated.

https://www.theantiracisteducator.com/person-of-colour

[Fosterbloke]

Think it might be a country thing mate.

In Ireland and the UK, person of colour is seen as very much an archaic term and can be viewed as being quite offensive.


In Australia afaik it is not viewed the same way (think the US may be the same in some states also).

Ah didn't know that. I grew up with Jim Davidson on the TV (darkie etc) which I ****ing hate, and most of my professional communities are US based so it's a commonly used identifier.

Thanks for highlighting that to me.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Tell me what's wrong with saying POC.

Think it might be a country thing mate.

In Ireland and the UK, person of colour is seen as very much an archaic term and can be viewed as being quite offensive.


In Australia afaik it is not viewed the same way (think the US may be the same in some states also) and is a , again afaik, a more commonly used term there.

[spud_gun]

Apart from being a person of colour, and coming from France, there are little other similarities.

I was referencing Dave's 'proper control of limbs' comment.

Konate and Sakho both seem very similar in that respect.

[Fosterbloke]

do you call white people "People of colour" or do you call them white?

Answer the question, what's wrong with saying POC. Are you offended somehow?

[kev776]

Tell me what's wrong with saying POC.

do you call white people "People of colour" or do you call them white?

[Fosterbloke]

why say a person of colour, why not say he is black?

Tell me what's wrong with saying POC.

[kev776]

Apart from being a person of colour, and coming from France, there are little other similarities.

why say a person of colour, why not say he is black?

[Fosterbloke]

I see a lot of similarities between him and Konate.

Apart from being a person of colour, and coming from France, there are little other similarities.

[spud_gun]

I see a lot of similarities between him and Konate.

[ChesterDave]

I was never sold on himtbh. Never looked like he was in proper control of his limbs