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Well he had a team that had Gerrard, torres, masher, alonso, carra and hyypia and he didn't manage it. He was too cautious to win a league.Originally posted by wiw View Post
What a shame the club wasn't run the way it is now. I've no doubt that Rafa would've won at least one league if it was
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Wow. I really don't agree with that. My concern with his team's was that they were so tactically coached that it could be difficult to set them up optimally twice in the same week. I think he tried to make that less necessary through the players he bought, but he ran out of money before he could complete the task.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostHe was too cautious to win a league.
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Originally posted by wiw View Post
What a shame the club wasn't run the way it is now. I've no doubt that Rafa would've won at least one league if it was
i'd say he is still sore about that alright. Benitez really got LFC - in much the same way Jurgen has. His valencia team were awesome and we were really pretty lucky to be able to hire Rafa. Him and Mourinho were the two top up and coming coaches back then.
I really enjoyed watching his teams and the way he improved the team in the first couple of years. Alonso was my favourite player.
Rafa really really improved players too. Obviously Gerrard went on to be a superstar for us and Alonso and Mascherano all went on be top players in their positions. But players like Carragher, Riise, Hyypia, Finnan......he made all of them better players than they were. Torres was awesome under him and never hit those heights again.
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When you look at the spending we did around then, we punched about our weight a little bit.Originally posted by Paul12 View PostWow. I really don't agree with that. My concern with his team's was that they were so tactically coached that it could be difficult to set them up optimally twice in the same week. I think he tried to make that less necessary through the players he bought, but he ran out of money before he could complete the task.
The stories about players we missed out on were a bit of a sickener too. Missed on Dani Alves because we wouldn't pay the 12m or whatever it was back then. So we signed Pennent!!! Simao was obviously another one but there were rumours that we just fell short for the likes of David Silva from Valencia..... i think we got Albert Riera instead. Aguero aledgedly went to Atletico Madrid instead of us because we wouldn't spend £17m on a teenager from Independiente.
If we had a little bit more money back then, we would have won the league and more trophies.
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You've named 6 playersOriginally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostWell he had a team that had Gerrard, torres, masher, alonso, carra and hyypia and he didn't manage it. He was too cautious to win a league.
If only it was a 5-a-side league. Agree to disagree on the bit in bold I think 
Originally posted by Paul12 View PostWow. I really don't agree with that. My concern with his team's was that they were so tactically coached that it could be difficult to set them up optimally twice in the same week. I think he tried to make that less necessary through the players he bought, but he ran out of money before he could complete the task.
He was ahead of his time imo.
DefinitelyOriginally posted by Liverpool View PostHe's seem to have grown up and matured quite a lot since he left the Liverpool bubble. To be fair to him it was must have been a pretty intense situation to handle over the years.
Imagine wanting to switch employers and getting death threats
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Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
i'd say he is still sore about that alright. Benitez really got LFC - in much the same way Jurgen has. His valencia team were awesome and we were really pretty lucky to be able to hire Rafa. Him and Mourinho were the two top up and coming coaches back then.
I really enjoyed watching his teams and the way he improved the team in the first couple of years. Alonso was my favourite player.
Rafa really really improved players too. Obviously Gerrard went on to be a superstar for us and Alonso and Mascherano all went on be top players in their positions. But players like Carragher, Riise, Hyypia, Finnan......he made all of them better players than they were. Torres was awesome under him and never hit those heights again.
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Rick Parry had a lot to answer for that too as kept questioning the need for those recruits & continuing to put off transfer talks with agents after Rafa had set them up...Read all about this in some article ages ago about the relationship between those two.Originally posted by frank the tank View PostWhen you look at the spending we did around then, we punched about our weight a little bit.
The stories about players we missed out on were a bit of a sickener too. Missed on Dani Alves because we wouldn't pay the 12m or whatever it was back then. So we signed Pennent!!! Simao was obviously another one but there were rumours that we just fell short for the likes of David Silva from Valencia..... i think we got Albert Riera instead. Aguero aledgedly went to Atletico Madrid instead of us because we wouldn't spend £17m on a teenager from Independiente.
If we had a little bit more money back then, we would have won the league and more trophies.Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!
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Watching it now,powerful and emotional stuffOriginally posted by Jas View PostAnyone watch football's darkest secrets on BBC1 last night? I caught the last few minutes and they were talking to Paul Stewart, the man is absolutely broken, not having watched the rest of the program I don't know the whole story but during the bit I watched he was talking about how during his time at LFC he was doing coke daily, I really need to download it and watch the rest of it.
who's arsed?
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That offside is a poor decisionOriginally posted by Irishnev View PostThe only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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