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    #76
    Originally posted by Rashid View Post
    My sources are credible actually, just because Tom Hicks isn't playing ball it doesn't mean I was that wrong. I was one of the first on this and on any board to say that DIC were back in, at a time when nobody had a clue that the owners wanted out. I post in good faith to be honest and don't need dick heads questionning the integrity of what I post. Not everything happens as planned... my missus could tell me she is going shopping, it might rain and she might stay in.. anything can happen it doesn't mean people lose credibility.

    Rafa is known to do this every summer, it is what he does, he did it at Valencia too....

    For the record... Seeing as though Mascherano and Torres have only just got here... I'd not want him to go until at least the end of next season. I'd hate for these two want to leave and he deserves to see them flourish. He needs to get the two world class players he craves and the fans and manager need to stop making excuses. Only then can we make a judgement on him.... at last - plus the 5 year plan will have finished then and there will be no more excuses.

    It gets better. Your sources are journalists, you tit. Do you believe everything you read in the papers?

    Rafa does this to ensure we get a budget that will allow us to at least stay competitive.

    Think about it. Who has the same ambition as us?

    1) Gillett & Hicks

    2) Rafa
    Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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      #77
      Neither have the same ambitions as us the fans, to think so you are extremely naive... we aren't paid by LFC, those people are.... none of whom would be here were it not for the money. Get a grip on reality please.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Rashid View Post
        He has made TWO outbursts in a year.. one after Athens and another during his infamous "coach the team" speech... he then took the piss by wearing a trackie away to Newcastle... get the picture? Not even Fergie dared question the Glaziers even though there was a fan revolt.

        I agree that extra money for transfers is fine, and the fans love him but he needs to stop playing on that and concentrate on managing the club.... he has spent more money than any other club in England this past 12 months... and more than United and Arsenal (NET) in his 4 years here.
        It just gets a bit too much really.... he has scrapped with the blue ****e in 2 of his 4 seasons here, he needs to keep his head down a bit I feel.

        As I said though, I want him given another year and it is make or break.

        If he wants more money for transfers there are other ways to go about I feel... that's all.

        Whilst i would argue Manu I cant be bothered but exactly how far behind those two clubs were we when he started spending?
        Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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          #79
          Originally posted by Rashid View Post
          Neither have the same ambitions as us the fans, to think so you are extremely naive... we aren't paid by LFC, those people are.... none of whom would be here were it not for the money. Get a grip on reality please.
          So Rafa doesnt want to win title's?

          EDIT I missed the reality bit, that's a joke I take it. Otherwise please explain.
          Last edited by Skillz; 28-03-08, 10:47 AM.
          Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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            #80
            You must be joking if I am going to "explain" anything to you... I have said what I want to say now... as for Man United... go and check.. they have spent nowhere near us as NET spend and neither have Arsenal these past 4 years. Even this past yera of United spending, we have spent more than them.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Rashid View Post
              You must be joking if I am going to "explain" anything to you... I have said what I want to say now... as for Man United... go and check.. they have spent nowhere near us as NET spend and neither have Arsenal these past 4 years. Even this past yera of United spending, we have spent more than them.
              I don’t think its fair to look at net spent to see how a manager has performed in the transfer market. To get a fair reflection you need to consider how much each squad was worth at the start and then again at the end. United were able to sell of there unwanted players for a lot more than we were, also were very lucky with John Obi Mikel making millions for nothing. On the other hand when Rafa started he had to let Owen go for a fraction of what he was worth, then we lost millions on Cisse due to him breaking his leg in France.
              For me our squad has went up a lot more proportionatly in value vs net spend than Uniteds and Chelseas has in the last 4 years.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Rashid View Post
                You must be joking if I am going to "explain" anything to you... I have said what I want to say now... as for Man United... go and check.. they have spent nowhere near us as NET spend and neither have Arsenal these past 4 years. Even this past yera of United spending, we have spent more than them.
                this nett argument is bollocks!!!!

                Rafa took over a team of **** with value of almost nil pois !!! how the **** was he going to get a return on that?

                Wenger has been a phenomen in gettting return on players and complete respect to waht he has acheived.

                Ferguson ahs spent a fortune but managed to recoup becuase he spent big and has had the luxury of being able to sell palayers neat or just over ther peak ie rvn, beckham, stam etc

                Rafa has been in the job less than 5 years and i imagine that Wengers and fergusons(maybe not coz of kids) nett spend in the first 5 years didnt look to good either.

                As has been proved by numerous posters on hundreds of occoasions now we have a squad that has value in it our nett spend in future will be massively reduced.

                we could easily raise 20/30 million selling fringe players this summer
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                Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by red g View Post
                  this nett argument is bollocks!!!!

                  Rafa took over a team of **** with value of almost nil pois !!! how the **** was he going to get a return on that?

                  Wenger has been a phenomen in gettting return on players and complete respect to waht he has acheived.

                  Ferguson ahs spent a fortune but managed to recoup becuase he spent big and has had the luxury of being able to sell palayers neat or just over ther peak ie rvn, beckham, stam etc

                  Rafa has been in the job less than 5 years and i imagine that Wengers and fergusons(maybe not coz of kids) nett spend in the first 5 years didnt look to good either.

                  As has been proved by numerous posters on hundreds of occoasions now we have a squad that has value in it our nett spend in future will be massively reduced.

                  we could easily raise 20/30 million selling fringe players this summer
                  Or Gerrard.
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