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    #16
    Barclay in the Torygraph (leaving out the Utd and Chavski bits):




    The view that Liverpool already have one foot in the Champions League semi-finals ignores, of all things, history, the very force that appears to have inspired them to punch well above their domestic weight in Europe of late. History can work against you too and, having experienced the unforgettable on Liverpool's ground in 1989, I'd say all Arsenal have to do is bring back Alan Smith and Michael Thomas for the second leg.

    Who would have thought it: the romance of the Champions League? But the spirit of the old European Cup really does live again, from time to time, once spring is sprung - and on Merseyside certainly there is a song to be sung. To hark back 19 years is only partly frivolous, because, as on that extraordinary night when George Graham's Arsenal snatched the English title from under Liverpool's noses (and were so sportingly applauded by the Kop), the home side will be cagey and the visitors obliged to take risks. Arsenal, moreover, have match-winners and a recent Anfield pedigree. Their technicians, led by Cesc Fabregas, will again appreciate the fast surface and tight confines.

    On the other hand, it will be a European night and Liverpool have Steven Gerrard. With one brilliant intervention at the Emirates Stadium, the Liverpool captain changed the tie. The dribble past two men was exciting enough, but for a right-footed player to play such a pass for Dirk Kuyt with his left was a sign of true class, as Gerrard gleefully acknowledged with his come-and-hug-me celebration. When Gerrard scores, the finish is everything; when Gerrard assists, the finish is a mere adornment. But there has been enough moaning from this quarter about his individualism and, now that he has found a position in which its benefits can be reaped without damage to the team, both Liverpool and England can look forward to quite a harvest.

    The other aspect that elevated last Wednesday's match was the contest for midfield supremacy between Fabregas and Javier Mascherano. At last Rafa Benitez has, in Mascherano and Xabi Alonso, a solid barrier in front of the back four. At the Emirates it appeared to have taken years off Sami Hyypia and it is the key to Gerrard's new liberty, which he may find frustrating at times because the nearer you get to the front of a team the more patient and tolerant an attacker must be. But this shape will next season, if the manager stays, take Liverpool closer to Gerrard's dream of the domestic title.

    Already they can set themselves up to overcome just about anyone on the big European occasion: among their victims have been Barcelona, Juventus, Inter and Chelsea. What they need is more consistency and some will note that Liverpool's recent successes have coincided with a moratorium on team rotation. Equally Benitez could claim that regularly refreshing the side has brought the players to peak condition at this crucial stage of the European season (when Manchester United sagged fatally a year ago).

    A balance, I suspect, is about to be struck and if next season sees a more expansive Liverpool, at least in their home matches in the Premier League, they could be contenders. Meanwhile another step towards a third Champions League final would bolster Anfield's faith and on Tuesday - again this is only a suspicion - there could be a role for Peter Crouch, given Arsenal's recurrent fallibility when defending in the air.

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      #17
      And Stewart Robson from the same:




      Following the first two evenly contested encounters in their series of three meetings, both the Arsenal and Liverpool managers will be thinking about making minor adjustments to give themselves the advantage in the second leg of their Champions League tie on Tuesday night.

      The first leg gave us a far better indication of the strengths and weaknesses of both sides than the starting line-ups in yesterday's Premier League match. Wenger would have been encouraged to see that Liverpool's defensive line lacked cohesion. With Jamie Carragher playing at right-back, the centre-back partnership of Martin Skrtel and Sami Hyypia (who, at 34, has just agreed a contract extension until 2009) failed to gel. Too many times the distance between them, in width or depth, became too big. Although they got away with it, they would have been punished if Arsenal's passing been more precise.


      Skrtel, in particular, was dragged into midfield areas, leaving Hyypia exposed. With neither having great pace, the space between them must be kept to a minimum. Whereas Carragher and Hyypia know exactly what each other is doing, Wednesday's partnership didn't have the same communication or telepathic understanding. Yesterday's pairing of Skrtel and Carragher looked better balanced with Steve Finnan at right-back.

      Wenger had obviously seen something before these games that suggested that Liverpool were vulnerable to inswinging set-plays. In the first game, he deployed three players to stand on the goal-line to stop Jose Reina coming for the ball and then got them to move out towards the six-yard box as the ball was delivered with pace. While Liverpool's zonal marking should be able to deal with this, their inability to attack the ball has resulted in Emmanuel Adebayor scoring unchallenged in the first game and Nicklas Bendtner doing likewise yesterday. Reina's refusal to come for crosses leaves Liverpool very vulnerable.

      Wenger, for his part, will need to decide how to deal with Steven Gerrard's threat. In the first leg, he made little effort to defend as Arsenal built up play but jogged into space so that he could be found as soon as Liverpool regained possession. His role allowed Arsenal's midfield to control the game, but it made him dangerous on the counter-attack as it did when he was sent on yesterday. At Anfield I believe he will move into wider areas so that Mathieu Flamini will not be able to stifle him.

      Rafa Benitez will be hoping that Wenger continues to play Philippe Senderos and William Gallas as his centre-halves. Although they coped well with Fernando Torres in the first leg, the Spaniard was isolated for much of the game and will be a different proposition at Anfield. Neither Senderos nor Gallas is quick and, should Gerrard get time on the ball, his understanding with Torres is such that any positional indiscretion will be exploited.


      I believe the pace of Kolo Toure will be invaluable to Arsenal and should be used in the centre of defence rather than at right-back. By playing him at full-back, it suggests Wenger has little faith in two of his other players. Emmanuel Eboue was considered a full-back until this season and, with Bacary Sagna injured, he should be the natural replacement - but not in Wenger's mind. Or does he not have faith in Theo Walcott starting important games in the position that Eboue would vacate if he returned to right-back? Neither player impressed yesterday.

      Regardless of the 1-1 scoreline in the Champions League tie, I believe both sides will continue to play their natural games. Arsenal will attempt to control possession with their movement and passing ability while Liverpool will remain compact and hope that the quartet of Torres, Gerrard, Ryan Babel and Dirk Kuyt are capable of creating chances with their pace and desire.

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        #18
        Peter Frojdfeldt from Sweden will be the ref.

        You can expect some very weird decisions, he lacks a very important thing, game understanding.
        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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          #19
          Originally posted by AFII View Post
          Peter Frojdfeldt from Sweden will be the ref.

          You can expect some very weird decisions, he lacks a very important thing, game understanding.
          Do you have any records of cards, penalties of this referees' from this season?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
            Do you have any records of cards, penalties of this referees' from this season?
            The game will be won in open play, IMO. European referees seem to prefer it that way
            The Crushing Machine MKII

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              #21
              Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
              Do you have any records of cards, penalties of this referees' from this season?
              He isn't a card happy ref and he don't give many penalties. The Swedish season has only just started.
              Just believe and you never know what will happen.

              According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                #22
                the more i think about it the more i feel that we should not play a defensive game at home to arsenal. with the crowd screaming i really would play 442 with gerrard on the right and crouch upfront with torres.

                Wenger is a good coach, he'll have worked out how to attack us if we play a counter attacking 4231 at home. Playing Crouch upfront and Gerrard on the right will give us 20 minutes where we can destroy them with the atmosphere and the attack minded tactics.

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                  #23
                  We're a bit rubbish at defending from dead ball situations. It's worrying. If we defend well then I'm confident Torres, Babel and Gerrard will get a couple of goals between them. *Fingers crossed*.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                    We're a bit rubbish at defending from dead ball situations. It's worrying. If we defend well then I'm confident Torres, Babel and Gerrard will get a couple of goals between them. *Fingers crossed*.
                    Shouldn't you be on the bluekipper?
                    The Crushing Machine MKII

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                      Shouldn't you be on the bluekipper?
                      What's the bluekipper?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                        What's the bluekipper?
                        Everton site, It was a bad joke based on the chants from the Derby
                        The Crushing Machine MKII

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                          Everton site, It was a bad joke based on the chants from the Derby
                          OK - I'll let you off. This time.

                          Ian.

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                            #28
                            Based on yesterday I'd quite like to see Torres start in place of Babel with Crouch up top but I dont think it'll happen.

                            Crouchie's also useful at defending set pieces and for that reason I'd like both him and Hyypia to play.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                              OK - I'll let you off. This time.

                              Ian.
                              The Crushing Machine MKII

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Johnny View Post
                                I`ll see your players and raise you Gerrard,Mascher,Alonso,Kuyt,Babel and Torres.


                                Originally posted by AFII View Post
                                Peter Frojdfeldt from Sweden will be the ref.

                                You can expect some very weird decisions, he lacks a very important thing, game understanding.
                                That's not good.

                                **** it though.

                                Its going to be a pretty hard game, but its also going to be one hell of a night at Anfield.

                                This is what football's all about, this is what Anfield's all about, let's have 'em I say.



                                Last edited by MrMichael; 08-04-08, 04:43 PM.
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                                Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                                Now all my lies are proved untrue
                                And I must face the men I slew.
                                What tale shall serve me here among
                                Mine angry and defrauded young?

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