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    #46
    Originally posted by Reece View Post
    So how do we know he isn't telling the truth then? I mean don't get me wrong, I have no reason to believe he would be, but he can't really win can he? He says nothing he gets stick. He comes on air and answers the questions that we all want to know and he'll still get stick - I have no doubt that the majority will just call him a liar. So what is he supposed to do (and don't say **** off ).

    I'm not now backing him or saying he is our saviour, but I really can't be arsed to spend my time spitting with fury at the guy. Maybe we should see how this plays out, and then make our minds up who really was the bad guy. Who knows - if he does what he said in that interview, then would things really be all that bad? And even if there is some debt on the club - well that's how the mancs are at the moment and we don't hear them complaining currently.

    Basically most of what we believe about him (and Gillette) has been fed to us from the media, and we know they aren't always right.

    I know my opinion isn't going to be very popular, but meh, I'm not just going to be a sheep and call him a cunt etc, because I really don't know.
    Reece, I'm inclined to agree.

    I was gonna post something similar, but you have summed it up perfectly.
    Oh I don't know.

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      #47
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      I'm broadly with you but I do think the interview is a mistake on his part and forms part of a pattern. Conducting business via the press is not what any of the fans want to see and open civil war is helping no one at the minute.

      I've been arguing for a while that we possibly don't have enough evidence to judge either of the owners in isolation for a while. However for every time they seem to be getting on with things (such as the Mascher transfer) there is another example of how they are ruining the image and hence potential advertising value of the club like this interview.

      Large parts of it seem to be down to a culture clash and failure to understand what European football fans want to see and in particular what LFC fans want to see.

      In response to AFIIs point about Hicks and stability. I thought only Corinthians had had stability problems in a real way in the others the problem was more one of stagnation. We have already seen pretty substantial investment in the team under the current ownership which would indicate that they have on some levels seen that this investment requires different things to their other ones to make it work for them.

      I would say though that the way to convince fans of their worth is to get on with the likes of planning the stadium and working out a time table for decisions such as how to proceed with the ownership problem and not to keep blathering on in the media.

      Some of the decisions that Hicks seems to want for example about Parry and Rafa would have been met with joy when they first took over. They remain sound choices in my book. However currently they just appear to be tactics in the battle for ownership of the club.
      Fair enough

      Originally posted by DeanoUK View Post
      Further to all this, Alan Brazil again confirmed this morning on Talk sport his sauce had stated that "Gillette had shaken hands with DIC to sell in May", and that "Hicks can't raise the money and is a dead man walking".


      Gillett have shaken hands with DIC but the problem is that he can still be forced to turn down DIC and keep his shares IF Hicks can match or better the offer from DIC.

      He will still in no way sell to Hicks so the worst possible outcome is that it all stays the way it's now.

      Hicks is probably hoping that Gillett will be desperate and then sell to him.
      Just believe and you never know what will happen.

      According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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        #48
        No-one really knows the truth on here do they so what is the point in posting 'fat cunt' 'lying ******* scum' etc I don't see what more Hicks can do, he is dammed if he does an interview and dammed if he doesn't, we don't know what is a lie and what is a truth, all we can do is listen to what he says and wait and see what happens. I don't neccessarily like the bloke or GG but he wants to give Rafa a 1 year extension which means he'll have 3 years left. That means by the end of it Rafa would have had 7 or 8 years to get it right.

        Hicks said if there was further success he'll extend it again, if in 3 years time we're no closer to winning the Premiership how many on here would want Rafa to stay, half on here ****ing wanted him out before Christmas so what good would giving him a 5 year deal do.

        How many think Hick's is lying with his comments on Parry?? our commercial revenue is abismal by comparison to the other top 4, someone posted yesterday that Spurs's new shirt sponsorship is worth more than our renewal with Carlsberg - ****ing renewal everyone knows in any walk of life you can get a better deal by switching, why do we have an alcohol sponsor when areas of the world we're trying to maximise revenue from don't agree with it (alcohol I mean). Hicks's is right about the stadium, Parry approved a 60,000 capacity design when Man U are building towards 100,000, it took the americans to revise the design and get it back through planning, now we don't really know what will happen until the stadium is actually built but we have to give him a chance to back up what he is saying.
        The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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          #49
          Originally posted by AFII View Post
          He named Parry as the one who should take care of our transfer dealings and that was at a time that he now says that he wanted Parry out....
          He was hardly going to come out and say "I want Rick to handle all transfer dealing who incidentally I want to sack/force to resign as he is a **** executive" was he??!!
          Last edited by cled the red; 17-04-08, 09:22 AM.

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            #50
            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
            Reece, I'm inclined to agree.

            I was gonna post something similar, but you have summed it up perfectly.
            Pfft, lazy arse.

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              #51
              Sad to see the some LFC fans get so easily sucked in by a Hicks interview on Man U Sports. Forget about all his antics pre-christmas. He's like a kid blaming all the negatives on GG and Parry and saying he has nothing to do with it. Like **** he had nothing to do with it.

              I wonder how many of you would still back him if he hadn't said he was pro-rafa over the last couple of months. Not many I don't think

              He says his family loves the club? Is that the same family that were heard saying they couldn't wait to get rid of the club after a match?

              The guy said he'd never been in talks with DIC but then admitted he had been when interviewed in December!

              Practically denying that he watned to put debt on the club, even though he's a levaraged buy-out man?

              Said months ago that he talked to Jurgen about European football. But today says he didn't even know him?!!

              Told Rafa to concentrate on coaching the team and now all of a sudden is Rafa's best friend?!

              Give me a ****ing break

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                #52
                Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                I wonder how many of you would still back him if he hadn't said he was pro-rafa over the last couple of months. Not many I don't think
                Have you actually read what anyone has said? Show me where someone has backed Hicks? Some are just not out for his blood just yet.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by cled the red View Post
                  He was hardly going to come out and say "I want Rick to handle all transfer dealing who incidentally I want to sack/force to resign as he is a **** executive" was he??!!
                  Rafa could have done the transfer deals himself and then gone to Hicks to finance them. Just as he want to do now.

                  If Gillett then blocked the deals then Hicks would really look like the winner and he would have used that to get rid of Parry by now by saying that he blocked some deals from going through.
                  Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                  According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                    Sad to see the some LFC fans get so easily sucked in by a Hicks interview on Man U Sports. Forget about all his antics pre-christmas. He's like a kid blaming all the negatives on GG and Parry and saying he has nothing to do with it. Like **** he had nothing to do with it.

                    I wonder how many of you would still back him if he hadn't said he was pro-rafa over the last couple of months. Not many I don't think

                    He says his family loves the club? Is that the same family that were heard saying they couldn't wait to get rid of the club after a match?

                    The guy said he'd never been in talks with DIC but then admitted he had been when interviewed in December!

                    Practically denying that he watned to put debt on the club, even though he's a levaraged buy-out man?

                    Said months ago that he talked to Jurgen about European football. But today says he didn't even know him?!!

                    Told Rafa to concentrate on coaching the team and now all of a sudden is Rafa's best friend?!

                    Give me a ****ing break
                    You're jumping the gun a little too quick on this IMO.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by AFII View Post
                      Rafa could have done the transfer deals himself and then gone to Hicks to finance them. Just as he want to do now.

                      If Gillett then blocked the deals then Hicks would really look like the winner and he would have used that to get rid of Parry by now by saying that he blocked some deals from going through.
                      Ah, but he wanted Rafa to concentrate on coaching the team - we're going round in circles now aren't we??!!!

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Reece View Post
                        Have you actually read what anyone has said? Show me where someone has backed Hicks? Some are just not out for his blood just yet.
                        Again Reece, I'm inclined to agree
                        Oh I don't know.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                          Again Reece, I'm inclined to agree
                          Look, I'll continue giving you links to music, you don't have to brown nose me

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                            Sad to see the some LFC fans get so easily sucked in by a Hicks interview on Man U Sports. Forget about all his antics pre-christmas. He's like a kid blaming all the negatives on GG and Parry and saying he has nothing to do with it. Like **** he had nothing to do with it.
                            who knows mate, might be true?

                            I wonder how many of you would still back him if he hadn't said he was pro-rafa over the last couple of months. Not many I don't think
                            fact is, he's supporting him.

                            He says his family loves the club? Is that the same family that were heard saying they couldn't wait to get rid of the club after a match?
                            hearsay? or: you have a point. i dont know

                            The guy said he'd never been in talks with DIC but then admitted he had been when interviewed in December!
                            no contradition, he wasn't in talks about selling his stakes but about working with them cause gillette wanted to sell?

                            Practically denying that he watned to put debt on the club, even though he's a levaraged buy-out man?
                            says he wants to get rid of the debt. where's the problem?

                            Said months ago that he talked to Jurgen about European football. But today says he didn't even know him?!!
                            where'S the contradiction?

                            Told Rafa to concentrate on coaching the team and now all of a sudden is Rafa's best friend?!
                            again, no contradiction. it's about roles.

                            Give me a ****ing break

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Reece View Post
                              Look, I'll continue giving you links to music, you don't have to brown nose me
                              Far from it.

                              You have unconsciously become my spokesman.
                              Oh I don't know.

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                                #60
                                I can see why people are saying that they want the situation resolved one way or another- even if this means giving Hicks total control. He certainly seems determined to stop put.

                                Holding the majority viewpoint does not maek you a sheep, but professing to do so without good reason does. I personally think he is a right wrongun & stand by my beliefs, but I also think the rest of em arent much better. So I just cannot see a hppy resolution to this in any direction it takes.

                                I would point out tho that to offer a 1 year contract extension is purely tokenism & pretty insulting to Rafa professionally & the fans' intelligence.
                                3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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