So my little snippet (from a trading floor in Amsterdam) at the time of the refinancing wasn't to far off the mark. My colleague stated that Moores has an agreement/piece of paper stating he the yanks couldn't load the debt onto the club.
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Originally posted by -V- View PostTom Hicks-- Greedy, Liar, Ignorant, Hard to judge his intentions, Self-obsessed, Clueless about football
Gillette- Clueless about football, Wants to get rid of Rafa, Can't buy-out Hicks and now either needs a new partner or must sell his stake, complete liability, Klinnsman (FFS)
Parry- Weve been saying sack Parry for ages, he's incompetant and always has been. Only good thing he has done is hire Rafa. His only real saving grace is that his heart is in the right place and he is liverpool through and through. Doesn't intentionally screw up, just his nature. On one hand we can do better than Parry but on the other hand it might be scary to leave Hicks with too much power
Moores- Trusted Parry too much, Weak Leader, poor businessman, Sold to the wrong people. But Wants whats best for the club and the fans

Its a horrible mess.I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
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Just as Hicks has been having Google up Wikepedia to find out who the **** Jurgen Klinsman is so I’ve had to run searches on leveraged buyouts. Each to his own. If Chelsea do dump us out of the CL the responsibility will lie squarely with the Board and Hicks in particular for creating the mother of all unseemly distractions at what is supposed to be the business end of the season. If all success means to these *******s is money then Hicks seems hell bent on blowing it.
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Whatever happens I would say we are pretty ****ed.
Even if this mess is somehow sorted out (which I seriously doubt), it is going to take months, by which time it will be too late to strengthen the squad, there is a very real risk we will have lost Rafa, and after 4 seasons of being the best performing team in Europe, having finally signed probably the best striker in the world at the moment and finding a system that could really have made an impact in the league next season, we will find ourselves worse off than we were at the end of Houllier's reign.
And I'm usually the optimist!"The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."
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Class ... love the last bitOriginally posted by -V- View PostRobbo Robson on 606-
It’s time to praise Liverpool. Not the club, but the manager and the players.
It’s unthinkable that any other team under the circumstances could’ve got their way to a Champions League semi with the sort of shenanigans that’s going on off the pitch.
True, it’s down to two players mostly, but that doesn’t make it any less of an achievement.
At a time when fans and players were marking the anniversary of the Hillsborough tragedy, Tom Hicks was busy sharpening his sword and preparing to dig it in to the ribs of anyone within stabbing distance.
This bloke says Rick Parry’s time as chief executive has been a disaster. Well, maybe, it hasn’t been too clever, but the biggest mistake he made was selling the club to America’s version of Cain and Abel.
Hicks is keen to put the skids under Parry – the Klinsmann meeting was set up by Rick apparently, and although he thought it was out of order, Hicks was there too, with his son Tom.
That tells you all you need to know doesn’t it? Tom Hicks has called his son Tom. Why do Yanks do that? All them American golfers called summat-summat the third. Like you’re not so much a person, just a sequel.
Hicks says if he bought Gillett out he’d put Rafa on a one-year extension straight away so he was around when the stadium was finally finished. One whole year, Tom? Taking your employment tips from the RFU, are you?
"Well done, Mr Ashton, would you like to keep your job for a whole year after getting a bunch of concrete-filled pillowcases to the World Cup Final?
"Good! That’ll give us plenty of time to undermine you by talking to other people behind your back. And then when we’ve done that we’ll sack you and offer you a rank alternative." That’s top management, isn’t it?
Hicks says Parry’s relationship with Rafa is fragile. Right. I suppose, though, if they went out for dinner, they might be able to string together a conversation, unlike, say, you and George.
You can see it now. "Could you ask Mr Hicks to pass me the salt?" "Could you tell Mr Gillett that the salt is in easy reach" etc, etc.
Do the two of them really think the public, and especially the Liverpool fans, are really going to believe anything they say when it’s all so obviously about two overgrown and unfortunately wealthy schoolboys having a playground spat?
It couldn’t be worse if Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie were the majority shareholders. I can’t imagine Parry’s job at the moment is anything other than that of an exhausted parent.
DIC has been looming in the background dangling the keys to Fort Knox in the faces of Parry, but the hapless pair aren’t going to put up with that. Hicks will never sell.
Gillett will sell to DIC maybe, but there’s a gentlemen’s agreement about one of them selling up independently of the other. Mind that’s a gentlemen’s agreement so it doesn’t apply to Gillett and Hicks.
In the meantime who decides what cash Rafa’s going to get to strengthen the squad (that is if he really wants a better than fourth place finish in any given year)?
Rafa really needs to offload a few n'all – Voronin, Pennant, Arbeloa, and Hyppia are looking a bit like a Grand National chaser coming into the home straight for the last time.
I mean it’s a joke. There’s a lorra lorra people out there who think the Beeb goes on a bit too much about Liverpool. But the board are a disgrace right now – and this is the club that set the benchmark for keeping everything in-house and out of the papers.
Hicks seems so bent on washing his dirty linen in public he should move out of football and into launderettes.
The idea that Liverpool might win the Champs League and the six board members will be jumping up and down in delight is a bit bloody sickening.
Not quite sure how any of them have helped – save for the cash for Torres, which any other bidder would have provided anyway.
At this rate they’ll be moving into a soulless shell of a stadium, with no Kop-like aura, and there’ll be two executive boxes at either end of the main stand to stop the stropsters from throwing peanuts at each other.
The ground’ll be called the Hicks-Gillett stadium on one side and the Gillett-Hicks Stadium on the other. And they’ll never get away from the ground very quick cos they’ll be letting each others’ tyres down and keying each others paintwork.
It’s a total joke. I was surprised that the Glazers weren’t carried out of Old Trafford on tumbrils and tipped into the Manchester Ship Canal – but what they’ve done well is they’ve kept their heads down.
Cos they know nowt about footy. And the club’s done fine, of course. But even Liverpool’s success can’t stop these prissy pillocks arguing the toss about just about everything.
I have spent half my life watching and whining at Liverpool FC cos for years you just couldn’t stop them winning anything unless you were a genius like Cloughie.
I suppose now I should be laughing, but it just makes me bleeding angry - and by the way, it’s not cos they’re American.
It’s cos they’re pathetic. Pick up your balls and go home and let someone else have a go.
Funny Chelsea reaction to our problems
You lot should worry. We have an owner who only likes his mates around him. (Shev & Avram.A manager who does not know what he is doing. A captain who does not like one of the trainers. A striker who never wanted to come anyway. A centre bach who would have come if he knew Mourinio was going. A tea lady who only drinks coffee. 2 midfield so called stars who cant link up together. A team that draws too many home games just to prolong some now unimportant record. strikers who cant score but are never the less deemed invalueble. And Kenyon on loan from Man U. so whats your problem. And you will dump us out the CL again.Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
#****CITY
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As long as the long term future of the club is saved I`m willing to sacrifice next season. The damages the two owner can do to the club can take years and years to fix.Originally posted by friedk View PostWhatever happens I would say we are pretty ****ed.
Even if this mess is somehow sorted out (which I seriously doubt), it is going to take months, by which time it will be too late to strengthen the squad, there is a very real risk we will have lost Rafa, and after 4 seasons of being the best performing team in Europe, having finally signed probably the best striker in the world at the moment and finding a system that could really have made an impact in the league next season, we will find ourselves worse off than we were at the end of Houllier's reign.
And I'm usually the optimist!Blank
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