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    Stolen from another site:

    I came across this article, written by an Norwegian scout named Tor-Kristian Karlsen, located in London who earlier was scouting chief for Hannover 96 (2004-2006), and was a part of the scouting team for the likes of Bayer 04 Leverkusen (2000-2004), Watford FC (1998-2000) and Grasshopper-Club Zurich (1996-1998).

    I will do my best translating it from Norwegian to English, so please bare with me:

    "After a trophy-less season, is another passenger what Rafael Benitez needs to get the Merseyside-express back on track?

    Recently the club announced that Philipp Degen will join the rest of the team from July 1st. Despite the rumours have been doing the rounds, myself and many other people who both respect the tradition-filled club from north-west, and follows the German league, raised our eyebrowns.

    The truth is, that Borussia Dortmund, who finished 13th this season, already in january told Degen that his contract will not be renewed. BVB wouldn't even try to offer him a new deal - not because they couldn't meet his demands, but because the ex-Basel player hadn't lived up to their expectations and therefore decided to give Antonio Rukavina from Croatia the chance in the right-back position.

    Most likely, Degen had foreseen a move back to Switzerland, or maybe a smaller team in Germany, but when Rafael Benitez came with his cheque book, the phrase "I was never in doubt when Liverpool offered me a contract and I couldn't sign it quick enough" have been more literally ment.

    Philipp Degen is not a scandelous weak footballer. When he's fit, he is the first choice in his position on the national team.

    His physique and his attacking minded play have raised some eyebrowns. He hasn't got a good accleration, but when he has a route schuelded up, he can be difficult to stop.

    His physique and attacking play is his two strongest areas. Other strengths aquired to justify a move to an European giant as Liverpool FC is positioning, mentality and end-product when it comes to crosses and constructive pass and move.

    In these areas, I'm afraid Degen is way to weak to be able to contribute enough for a Europen top-club such as Liverpool.

    Degen will probably not be the only newbie walking through the gates at Anfield. Gareth Barry and Andrea Dossena are both on a daily- basis being lined up as potentially new players for Rafael Benitez.

    Isolated, they are both good players, but I doubt they are players who will get Stevie Gerrards hands closer to the Premier League trophy.

    Anyway, the signing of Degen signals that Liverpool haven't learned from last year when they signed Andriy Voronin, who also was a player without a contract or memorable success from the Bundesliga, who didn't deserve to touch the famous "This is Anfield" sign.

    Equally with Vornin, Benitez will probably point out that Degen is signed as a back-up player, but if Steve Finnan is on his way back to Fulham and Alvaro Arbeloa is his only
    competitor, I can hardly see anything else that the right back positon will be a weak point for Liverpool next season.

    Of course, the Spaniard may be restricted in form of funds with all the things happening around the ownership situation, but what is the purpose bringing new playersr in just because they're free?

    If the player doesn't have the abilities of a top-class player, which is the case with Voronin and Degen, it doesn't matter if the player is free or gives Rafael Benitez unlimited goods in form of chocolate."
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      if we ain't got the cash we ain't got the cash

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        I don't know what everyone is complaining about. In my opinion there aren't many quality right backs about at the minute. Degen is probably in the top 2 or 3 in the world and i for one am delighted about his signing. He'll be our first choice right back for 8 years.

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          Originally posted by Ferrrrnando View Post
          I don't know what everyone is complaining about. In my opinion there aren't many quality right backs about at the minute. Degen is probably in the top 2 or 3 in the world and i for one am delighted about his signing. He'll be our first choice right back for 8 years.


          I at least admire the strength of your convictions.
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            Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post


            I at least admire the strength of your convictions.


            ****ing hell, if we've got one of the top 3 right-backs in the world on a free...we're in business

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              Originally posted by Ferrrrnando View Post
              I don't know what everyone is complaining about. In my opinion there aren't many quality right backs about at the minute. Degen is probably in the top 2 or 3 in the world and i for one am delighted about his signing. He'll be our first choice right back for 8 years.


              Oh, what the hell, blind faith for the win, bring him on then
              I could not dig, I dared not rob:
              Therefore I lied to please the mob.
              Now all my lies are proved untrue
              And I must face the men I slew.
              What tale shall serve me here among
              Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                Can someone name me some good right backs then? Because i'm struggling here.

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                  Originally posted by Ferrrrnando View Post
                  Can someone name me some good right backs then? Because i'm struggling here.
                  Sagna
                  Alves
                  Ramos
                  Maicon
                  Glen Johnson *seriously*
                  Miguel
                  Bosingwa
                  Zambrotta (albeit in decline)
                  Zanetti
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                    Sagna
                    Alves
                    Ramos
                    Maicon
                    Glen Johnson *seriously*
                    Miguel
                    Bosingwa
                    Zambrotta (albeit in decline)
                    Zanetti
                    Zanetti? The Inter Captain? He COULD play there I guess

                    ..and I still think Glen Johnson is garbage defensively.
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                      Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                      Degan
                      Sagna
                      Alves
                      Ramos
                      Maicon
                      Glen Johnson *seriously*
                      Miguel
                      Bosingwa
                      Zambrotta (albeit in decline)
                      Zanetti

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                        Originally posted by Cacodemon View Post
                        Zanetti? The Inter Captain? He COULD play there I guess

                        ..and I still think Glen Johnson is garbage defensively.
                        I don't rate Maicon at all
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                          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                          Sagna
                          Alves
                          Ramos
                          Maicon
                          Glen Johnson *seriously*
                          Miguel
                          Bosingwa
                          Zambrotta (albeit in decline)
                          Zanetti
                          Thing is though that a year ago all of the things that are levelled at Degen could have been said about Johnson. I suspect Rafa knows he needs work but that the potential is worth the relatively small gamble in his mind.

                          I also think from the little I have seen of Zambrotta this season he would not be ready for a move to the PL and so for us he wouldn't necessarily be that great a buy and he would certainly cost good money. I see your point that there may be better options than Degen out there in terms of ability - the question has to be, given our finances, are they better options for us?
                          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                            Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                            Sagna
                            Alves
                            Ramos
                            Maicon
                            Glen Johnson *seriously*
                            Miguel
                            Bosingwa
                            Zambrotta (albeit in decline)
                            Zanetti


                            +

                            Rafinha
                            Lahm (I know he plays on the left for Bayern but he's right footed)
                            Giourkas Seitaridis?
                            Eboue even
                            I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                            Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                            Now all my lies are proved untrue
                            And I must face the men I slew.
                            What tale shall serve me here among
                            Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                              What I've seen of Zambrotta I'd say he's well past his peak; at his best he was the premier fullback in European football (and could be effective on either side) - an Arbeloa on 'roids.
                              Last edited by Rich; 22-05-08, 08:21 PM.
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                                Originally posted by MrMichael View Post


                                +

                                Rafinha
                                Lahm (I know he plays on the left for Bayern but he's right footed)
                                Giourkas Seitaridis?
                                Eboue even
                                Don't tell the Arsenal fans that. He is not popular amongst them.

                                Whats the big K for btw?
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