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Chelsea splash 16 million on a RB, Scum are after Alves for RB, we sign a free transfer that nobody seems to know much about ( apart from youtube) for RB.
Says it all really
Yup. We're a bit skint. They've got loads of money. That's about the long and the short of it.
However, just because we haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's ****. I know, I know, Voronin-blah, but who'd heard of Hyppia before we bought him?
From previous posts on here, I believe Rafa tried to buy Degen when he was at Valencia, which means he's been following the guy for some time. Much though we'd all love to be able to go spending £15m on a full back, we've got to get out of that mindset imo, we simply can't compete with ManU and Chelsea's spending, so we have to try to do it another way. We need players with the right mentality, if Rafa thinks this fella has it then we've no reason (yet) to think otherwise.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
The last time we signed a full back on a free from Germany he turned out to be rather good.
Let's give the lad a chance.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
The last time we signed a full back on a free from Germany he turned out to be rather good.
Let's give the lad a chance.
Agreed, but that wasn't just a 'lad', that was the accomplished international and highly regarded Marcus Babbel signed from Champions League winners Bayern Munich.
With the greatest of respect this type of signing (Degen that is) is a complete unknown for almost all of us, therefore we should respect the guy and at least afford him the opportunity to show us what he is all about.
However, by targeting this level of player we have shown again how far behind in terms of resources we really are. As has been stated, Chelsea sign a 16m RB, Utd are after Alves who will cost at least 20m.
As I said, we should give him a chance, but TBH I quickly getting used to the idea that we will only be fighting for a CL spot again next season and hope to have another good CL run.
"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
Agreed, but that wasn't just a 'lad', that was the accomplished international and highly regarded Marcus Babbel signed from Champions League winners Bayern Munich.
With the greatest of respect this type of signing (Degen that is) is a complete unknown for almost all of us, therefore we should respect the guy and at least afford him the opportunity to show us what he is all about.
However, by targeting this level of player we have shown again how far behind in terms of resources we really are. As has been stated, Chelsea sign a 16m RB, Utd are after Alves who will cost at least 20m.
As I said, we should give him a chance, but TBH I quickly getting used to the idea that we will only be fighting for a CL spot again next season and hope to have another good CL run.
It was only a year or two after Chelsea signed Ferreira for mega money that we signed Arbeloa for very little and look how that's worked out. I believe Rafa can win us the PL without a level playing field, it's just going to take time and patience.
"My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.
Agreed, but that wasn't just a 'lad', that was the accomplished international and highly regarded Marcus Babbel signed from Champions League winners Bayern Munich.
With the greatest of respect this type of signing (Degen that is) is a complete unknown for almost all of us, therefore we should respect the guy and at least afford him the opportunity to show us what he is all about.
However, by targeting this level of player we have shown again how far behind in terms of resources we really are. As has been stated, Chelsea sign a 16m RB, Utd are after Alves who will cost at least 20m.
As I said, we should give him a chance, but TBH I quickly getting used to the idea that we will only be fighting for a CL spot again next season and hope to have another good CL run.
Maybe Rafa thinks that with Finnan, Arbeloa and now Degen, £20m+ would be better spent further up the pitch?
Who knows.
"The definition of insanity is not running into the same wall again and again; it's expecting a different result every time you do it."
We could have had him for around £8m 2 YEARS AGO if Rafa had been backed...
Now again, like Vidic he'll walk off to play for the scum for a much higher fee despite being spotted by Rafa years ago...
Silvestre (OK he turned us down to join the MAncs & he's not that good anyway), Ronaldo & Vidic were all Red targets - shame we couldnt follow up & buy them
Lets hope this Deggen has some quality...
What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins
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Tupac
I just get the gut feeling that this type of signing is not the first target for Rafa, but more of a compromise so the limited bucks G&H provide (via another loan no doubt) can be spent elsewhere.
"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
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