When will the pain end?

[Dalglish]

surrounded by mancs on such a night as last night isn't pleasant, when the **** are we going to have our moment of glory again??
Well in the next ****ing life probably unless we get our act together.
This **** can't get much worse really, i've grown up with United winning everything and us basically failing and unfortunately the trend shows no sign of passing.
I'm Liverpool win, lose or draw but i'm seriously ****ed off with this atm, unless we actually take a risk or two in the transfer market we've got no hope.
Marky

We won the ****ing thing in 2005 you idiot

[Marky]

We won the ****ing thing in 2005 you idiot

Overall man, overall they're on another level.

Sad but true.

[Dalglish]

Overall man, overall they're on another level.

Sad but true.

At the moment they are better than us. Nothing, especially that will last forever.

[el matador]

it is horrible to sit and watch the mancs winning, but you have to hold your hands up and give credit where it's due, they have been the strongest and most consistent team for the last 10 years and whether its down to spending big, pure luck or a pact with the devil it's irrelevent.

What happens next tho will be interesting - Life after fergie will be very different for them and that ****ing cunt who i despise more than anyone in football(did you see him at half time waiting for he ref then having words with him **** off knobhead) will retire soon - along ith the likes of scholes, giggs, neville(admittley not played through injury this year) will also move on and retire.

Thats when the cracks will start to appear - new manager comes in, different ideas, different way of working, unbelievable amount of pressure to follow fergie, going to have to win over the players respect, makes a change here and there, couple mistakes, press jup on his back, maybe ronaldo will move to real madrid once fergie has gone etc etc etc.

The United set up at the moment is all about ferguson - he has done a hell of job but once he goes things will change and thats when we need to be in a position to take over and start to dominate again - we say this every summer tho, we are close just a few signings and we will be there - this summer it really has to happen tho!

Some really cracking points there.

Unlike some people I think United are coming towards the end of their cycle of dominance and there may be a period of uncertainty for the club.

They are massively in debt and have to pay £81m per season in interest payments alone on the loan of approx £760m (an increase from last year). Last season they only paid £41 of that and still owe £56m in outstanding transfer payments.

Yes they have a high turnover but when the interest payments alone are that high how much money can you allocate to transfers. They lost nearly £60m last season.

I believe that they will be forced to sell ronaldo this season because you cannot sustain that level of debt in the long term and their debt is increasing every year.

I have some mates who support man u and they are seriously worried by this. Once ronaldo goes then they wont be the same team. If you take 42 goals out of their season they would be lucky to finish in the top 4.

Dont be surprised to see fergie leave this season as why would he want to be in charge of a struggling team When he's just done the double ?

Its just my personal opinion.

[Guest]

We won the ****ing thing in 2005 you idiot

[Guest]

Overall man, overall they're on another level.

Sad but true.

Slit your wrists Marky.

Mate, we're not far behind. It's a matter of consistency and general luck. They're not 'miles ahead' that's for sure. We've been better than them in the last 15 premiership (or so) games.

11 points in the league ? One season is enough to bridge that gap.

So please, stop the negativity and look ahead to a great future.

[Exiled_red]

Slit your wrists Marky.

Mate, we're not far behind. It's a matter of consistency and general luck. They're not 'miles ahead' that's for sure. We've been better than them in the last 15 premiership (or so) games.

11 points in the league ? One season is enough to bridge that gap.

So please, stop the negativity and look ahead to a great future.

And they are one of the luckiest teams ever!

[Marky]

We do have some hope, however with players like:
Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Masherano, Gerrard, Babel, Torres

That's top fecking quality there.

I would like to include Agger in that list but i'm not sure he'll ever be the same player again.

Lucas is another who could step up to the plate and become a big player for us.

The spine of the team is first class, what we need is 4 or 5 real quality additions to join our current set of players. Easy to say we need this is and that, whether we can actually make it a reality is another thing.

[Hass]

Agger will not be the same player ever again? He had a setback with his injury. he's not Kewell

Stop talking soft lad, grow a set of balls and man the f**k up.

[Kev_81]

We do have some hope, however with players like:
Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Masherano, Gerrard, Babel, Torres

That's top fecking quality there.

I would like to include Agger in that list but i'm not sure he'll ever be the same player again.

Lucas is another who could step up to the plate and become a big player for us.

The spine of the team is first class, what we need is 4 or 5 real quality additions to join our current set of players. Easy to say we need this is and that, whether we can actually make it a reality is another thing.

You forgot Degen in that list fella

[saj]

We do have some hope, however with players like:
Reina, Carragher, Skrtel, Masherano, Gerrard, Babel, Torres

That's top fecking quality there.

I would like to include Agger in that list but i'm not sure he'll ever be the same player again.

Lucas is another who could step up to the plate and become a big player for us.

The spine of the team is first class, what we need is 4 or 5 real quality additions to join our current set of players. Easy to say we need this is and that, whether we can actually make it a reality is another thing.

You'll be OK once you finish puberty

[Marky]

Funny guys.

The question is will youse be making sarcy remarks and joking about when this time two years United have overhauled our championship record and it's all square on the European front? I think not.

[Guest]

Funny guys.

The question is will youse be making sarcy remarks and joking about when this time two years United have overhauled our championship record and it's all square on the European front? I think not.

Mate, this is all hypothetical ! Can you read into the future !?

What if I tell you that you'll be growing a set of bigger balls in 2 years ?

[saj]

Funny guys.

The question is will youse be making sarcy remarks and joking about when this time two years United have overhauled our championship record and it's all square on the European front? I think not.

No, I will not be making any comments as I will have developed a liking for Cricket or Basketball or marbels or tiddlywinks by then.

[saj]

Mate, this is all hypothetical ! Can you read into the future !?

What if I tell you that you'll be growing a set of bigger balls in 2 years ?

Now that may not be possible without surgical intervention