Are we really paupers?

[Rashid]

Everyone keeps saying we spend **** all, we have no money, Rafa's hands are tied.. how about this lot for the past year then?

Benayoun £5m
Babel £11.5m
Torres £20m
Lucas £6m
Mascherano £17m
Leto £1.8m
Insua £1.3m
Itandje £2m
Skrtel £6.5m

£71.1m spent in the past year - that is not pauper money is it? We sold Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Palleta, Sissoko for a combined £30m giving us a net of £41m this past year. Obviously some dispute the Mascheranoo figure but both Rafa and Kia have mentioned £17m as the fee so the chinese whispers of "including wages" are just that.

All pedantics anyway, that's a lot of money right there.

[Chris]

Hang on a sec, you spent the whole of January saying Mascherano was around £10m because Dave Usher said so and went mental at anyone who suggested he was £17m, Make your mind up.

[Rashid]

Hang on a sec, you spent the whole of January saying Mascherano was around £10m because Dave Usher said so and went mental at anyone who suggested he was £17m, Make your mind up.

Show me the link? If I said I detract it. I cannot believe Kia would sell so cheap.

Anyway, just say he is £10m, we are still hardly paupers are we? I find those who peddle that **** utterly wrong.

[Sarb]

Insua wasn't bought in the past year was he? Don't Man U spend that much on about 2 or 3 players, whereas we're buying a few. There's a big difference

[Rafa Shankly]

it was all borrowed monies rash.

[Sarb]

Show me the link? If I said I detract it. I cannot believe Kia would sell so cheap.

Anyway, just say he is £10m, we are still hardly paupers are we? I find those who peddle that **** utterly wrong.

We are paupers. We don't buy £15m - £20m players every summer like Chavs and Mancs.

[Rafa Shankly]

We are paupers. We don't buy £15m - £20m players every summer like Chavs and Mancs.

exactly,this summers spending will prove we are paupers,and more to the point how we manged to spend the money we spent last summer.

[Sarb]

Chavs lose the final and the following day are lining up a £28m signing. That's the difference between us and the Mancs. And it's a big difference

[Rashid]

To answer a few points.

1. Rafa "prefers" to buy 6 players at £30m as opposed to 2 at £15m each.
2. Insua was bought last summer.
3. It might be borrowed money but Rafa still spent it, we still got the players.
4. The Mancs and Arsenal have spent less than us since Rafa has come here both Gross and NET.
5. We finished 2 point behind the Mancs 2 years ago and spent more since then only for them to pull away.

[Sarb]

To answer a few points.

1. Rafa "prefers" to buy 6 players at £30m as opposed to 2 at £15m each.
2. Insua was bought last summer.
3. It might be borrowed money but Rafa still spent it, we still got the players.

Did he tell you that?

[peekay]

Did he tell you that?

[Rashid]

Did he tell you that?

49 players in 4 years - actions speak louder than words. It's a revolving door..

[Rafa Shankly]

To answer a few points.

1. Rafa "prefers" to buy 6 players at £30m as opposed to 2 at £15m each.
You dont know that rash.
2. Insua was bought last summer.
for a pittance
3. It might be borrowed money but Rafa still spent it, we still got the players.
will we get the same money this summer?
4. The Mancs and Arsenal have spent less than us since Rafa has come here both Gross and NET.
thats not true
5. We finished 2 point behind the Mancs 2 years ago and spent more since then only for them to pull away.
far more worlld class players who are accustimed to winning than us,it wont happen over night rash.

and to repeat the most important question.

will we spend anywhere near what we spent last season?

[Rashid]

and to repeat the most important question.

will we spend anywhere near what we spent last season?

The Mancs haven't spent less? What are you on about?

2 years ago they sold Nistellroy and bought Carrick - then won the league... last summer Fregie bought Anderson, Nani, Hargreaves and Kszciak for £51m plus a £6m loan fee for Carlos Tevez.

They also sold Heinze, Smith, Rossi and Richardson for about £25m. I am not that good at maths but that works out at £32m NET - much less than ours.

[Sarb]

49 players in 4 years - actions speak louder than words. It's a revolving door..

But you said he "prefers". So that implies he told you....so did he tell you that?

At the end of the day when he took over our squad wasn't great. He's bought squad players but also bought some big players like Alonso, Torres, Mascherano. If he had the money he would have bought more players like them, but he hasn't had unlimited resources like the Chavs and the Mancs. Also, his reserve team comprising youngsters he's bought, pretty much walked the Reserve League, so he's done a pretty good job with his buying. And if you're talking about buying ****, look at the below

Veron
Jeffers
Wright
SWP

I'm sure people can add to the list