New Fan Card - £29 per year?

[Elvoz]

He's been a season ticket holder for over 10 years off the top of my head.

so a ST holder who thinks the club are doing us all proud and care



a rare breed i dont know any others who think that and i know plenty

[The Glove]

I think it's a good idea. The ridiculous fact is we have well over a quarter of a million fan card holders. Basically there are people with half a dozen or more making the odds of getting a ticket very slim.

Cut down the numbers of fan cards, very sensible, I hope the fee is annual

Or charge more for the tickets so it prices more people out letting only those with plenty of spare cash go the game. Cuts down the number of people so the odds on getting ticket are increased! Everyone is a winner! Unless you have bills to pay etc etc.

[SERVO2]

so a ST holder who thinks the club are doing us all proud and care



a rare breed i dont know any others who think that and i know plenty

Look mate don't bother trying to put words into my mouth.
He pointed out that compared to other prem clubs we have "cheaper" tickets (which I do believe is true) - after your condesending reply I told you he was a season ticket holder.
At no point have either of us made any other comments that you are making reference to. End of.

Have a nice night.

[DannyMan2006]

Or charge more for the tickets so it prices more people out letting only those with plenty of spare cash go the game. Cuts down the number of people so the odds on getting ticket are increased! Everyone is a winner! Unless you have bills to pay etc etc.

Exactly. It's fine by me as I have enough money, but it's not fare on a lot of other fans. Mind, it may apease some of the morons who call themselves fans who take it upon themselves to abuse "day trippers".

Never had any problems myself, but one of my dads mates told him that he went down to Anfield to support the reds, only to get set upon for not being a Scouser and not being a regular!

Mind, he then started to support the Mancs such was his bad experience, so maybe they were right In all seriousness though, this scheme is enough to price people out and make them turn to supporting other teams. Why go along to a one off game at Anfield when for the same price you could go to two games at Old Trafford, who play better football than us. This could easily lose us the fair weather fans who buy the shirts and dvds every year.

Not my favourite kind of fan, but they contribute valuable money. More importantly it could lose us the support of our solid working class back ground. A disgrace.

[Red Chilli]

Or charge more for the tickets so it prices more people out letting only those with plenty of spare cash go the game. Cuts down the number of people so the odds on getting ticket are increased! Everyone is a winner! Unless you have bills to pay etc etc.

No, you've missed the point.

There's no point in having fan cards if they are so freely available that people have half a dozen or more registered in the names of relatives who have no intention of ever going to a game and are not fans.
Making them 29 quid removes this possibility as people will only get one, unless, as you say, they have so much money that they can afford to buy half a dozen. It just pisses me off that fan cards are so meaningless because selfish people abuse the system.

[disco]

No, you've missed the point.

There's no point in having fan cards if they are so freely available that people have half a dozen or more registered in the names of relatives who have no intention of ever going to a game and are not fans.
Making them 29 quid removes this possibility as people will only get one, unless, as you say, they have so much money that they can afford to buy half a dozen. It just pisses me off that fan cards are so meaningless because selfish people abuse the system.

[The Glove]

No, you've missed the point.

There's no point in having fan cards if they are so freely available that people have half a dozen or more registered in the names of relatives who have no intention of ever going to a game and are not fans.
Making them 29 quid removes this possibility as people will only get one, unless, as you say, they have so much money that they can afford to buy half a dozen. It just pisses me off that fan cards are so meaningless because selfish people abuse the system.

Ok so why not just do away with fan cards? If fan cards are there to enable people to buy tickets why do they need to charge people in order to have a chance of buying one? They want us to pay £29 for nothing. It doesnt get you a ticket this extra charge, it doesnt even give eveyone the same chance, all it does is give the club a lot more income than it would by sticking a quid on the price of a normal ticket and takes the game another step away from families and those on lower wages.

[Red Chilli]

Ok so why not just do away with fan cards? If fan cards are there to enable people to buy tickets why do they need to charge people in order to have a chance of buying one? They want us to pay £29 for nothing. It doesnt get you a ticket this extra charge, it doesnt even give eveyone the same chance, all it does is give the club a lot more income than it would by sticking a quid on the price of a normal ticket and takes the game another step away from families and those on lower wages.

I think there has to be some kind of "membership scheme" in line with Premiership rules so that if you misbehave, your fan card is removed. As unenforcable as it sounds, I think there has to be a system like that in place as part of the rules.
Why 29 quid? I don't know, but there does have to be a way of discouraging people from abusing the system by registering relatives who have no intention of gong to a game or being fans of LFC, just so they can take advantage of the loyalty bonus that comes with it.
3.50 pounds for a lifetime leaves the system wide open to abuse, I dare say there are people with 20 or more fancards at their disposal.

Also, it real terms, there are 19 home matches a season minimum, that's about 1.50 per game. Then there are away matches and cup matches. I don't think it prices families on lower wages out of the game.

[NICKZS]

Or charge more for the tickets so it prices more people out letting only those with plenty of spare cash go the game. Cuts down the number of people so the odds on getting ticket are increased! Everyone is a winner! Unless you have bills to pay etc etc.

[redstaralex]

the start of the premiership and sky has changed the whole face of football, they kicked out the "yobs" (good start) then they slowly increased the number of tickets for foreign (inc Isle of Man & Jersey) fans as me and you only spend money on our ticket plus a coffee / pint and a pie whereas a foreign fan will go to the shop and spend an extra £100 on top of the ticket, the "fans" that they want are the ones who go and spend a pile of money per game (see 39th European tour game) we've got no chance unless we're minted

as an aside I've been on the waiting list for a season ticket for 12 years now, anyone else been on this long?

[The Glove]

It is all about money and all the clubs dont really care where it comes from. the 39th game proved this.

As for the point that this will stop people abusing the system, well its quite the opposite. Touts will pay it because they'll know that it will price out a lot more fans so they can then get more tickets to sell on to those that now dont have as easy access to tickets. At the end of the day, this idea is soley about making money not improving ticketing systems. Lets face it, the only way they can improve the cash flow is from the fans. Everything else is set amounts were as fans spending can increase all the time. An extra £30 off however many thousand before they have even got to the ground/shop is a start.

[Leyton388]

Sounds like a good idea to get some money into the club. However at the same time i will not be giving my money to the club until those ****s are out as the only way to do this is it hit them where it hurts. I know its not much but i think thats our best way of doing it.

[Red Chilli]

It is all about money and all the clubs dont really care where it comes from. the 39th game proved this.

As for the point that this will stop people abusing the system, well its quite the opposite.

How so? I mean how will it make the system MORE open to abuse which would be the opposite? Touts will always be there, I take that point, but I'm not talking about touts, I'm talking about fans who aren't touts but they have multiple fan cards so they can increase their loyalties and get better access to multiple cup tickets etc.

Touts will pay it because they'll know that it will price out a lot more fans so they can then get more tickets to sell on to those that now dont have as easy access to tickets. At the end of the day, this idea is soley about making money not improving ticketing systems. Lets face it, the only way they can improve the cash flow is from the fans. Everything else is set amounts were as fans spending can increase all the time. An extra £30 off however many thousand before they have even got to the ground/shop is a start.

Of course it's about making money, otherwise why not make the fan cards free. Charging 3 pound 50 is also about making money. It doesn't cost 3.50 in admin. The motivation is clear and we agree it's about money, but I welcome the change as it will stop ordinary fans from having multiple cards.

[The Glove]

Do you not think though, that for every fan with multiple cards who may go from 5 cards down to two, there will be more with one card that goes down to none?

[Elvoz]

It is all about money and all the clubs dont really care where it comes from. the 39th game proved this.

As for the point that this will stop people abusing the system, well its quite the opposite. Touts will pay it because they'll know that it will price out a lot more fans so they can then get more tickets to sell on to those that now dont have as easy access to tickets. At the end of the day, this idea is soley about making money not improving ticketing systems. Lets face it, the only way they can improve the cash flow is from the fans. Everything else is set amounts were as fans spending can increase all the time. An extra £30 off however many thousand before they have even got to the ground/shop is a start.

well said

anyways im fine got my ST