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    Article from the Independent today.....

    Robbie and Barry can be final pieces in the Liverpool jigsaw as the mad, mad world of the Premier League kicks off again.

    Not long now. It's like listening out for the first cuckoo of spring. When Harry Redknapp starts to curse that he can't possibly contemplate Europe and the League with such slender resources and Alan Curbishley complains about injuries and – God help us – "burn-out" beforea ball is kicked in anger, you know the Premier League is nearly upon us. It is confirmed when the players, too, begin pledging undying allegiances, with the former Arsenal man David Bentley declaring, without apparent irony, that his heart is at Tottenham. Meanwhile Spurs fans will be relieved to know Robbie Keane still has a place in his for them, though he would much rather be at Anfield, where he has arrived to discover Rafa Benitez stating: "This is the best squad I've had since I arrived." The strikermay well discover that this is no false optimism.

    In the mad mad, mad, mad world of the Premier League, no fewer than 73 players have already been conscripted by clubs this summer, for fees, on frees and on loan, and there remains nearly a month of trafficking yet before the window closes. There has been more trying on of new shirts than at a discount Gant outlet, more professing of faith (to a new club badge) than an evening spent at an evangelical church.

    Who knows, Gareth Barry, a man who had set his heart on the Champions' League challenge offered by Liverpool and was virtually out the Villa door, may yet join the jubilant Keane, such is the nature of football brinkmanship. And, if so, of all the deals currently enriching players and their agents – but not necessarily clubs – there is just a suspicion that these two would be the most significant, and herald a change in the great order of things.

    Benitez, just about to begin his fourth season at Anfield, has been talking up Liverpool's chances of claiming a first title since 1990, and for once it could be no idle boast. Taking it a stage further, it could be said that the Spaniard needs his team at least to make an authentic challenge for the title. Memories of Istanbul remain firm foundations for the reputation he created with Valenciabut yield little succour to the club's followers when Manchester United and also Chelsea begin to sprint away in the title race, as habitually they have done.

    Yes, Keane, at 28, is almost certainly overpriced at £20 million. But there is a premium on strikers, at both ends of the table (on that same subject, is Andy Johnson really worth the £13m that Fulham have paid for him?).

    Keane is a clever, intuitive player, and if the new No 7 can contribute what two of the previous occupants of that shirt have over the years at Liverpool it may just turn out to be an astute acquisition. Indeed, as Benitez put it: "If he can give us 80 per cent of what Dalglish and Keegan gave to the club he will be a fantastic player. I think he has enough experience and qual-ity and he will be OK. When you have qualities like he has, you have confidence."

    Crucial will be the Irishman's partnership with Fernando Torres. "If you play 4-2-3-1, he can play in four positions," Benitez said of Keane's versatility. "If you play 4-4-2, it doesn't matter. He can play as a winger or as a striker. When he is on the pitch you always know he is someone who will work hard and will understand the game and will understand what the manager wants. So I think he is good and can fit into different styles during the games. He has a very good mentality, a winning mentality. I think all managers are looking for this with every signing."

    Benitez revealed he had also sought, and been rewarded with, positive reports on Keane from Italy, where the Irish international moved as a 20-year-old to play for Internazionale.

    If Keane achieves a harmony with Torres, it could be the most potent Premier League strikeforce, evoking Liverpool duos of old. "At Tottenham, playing with [Dimitar] Berbatov for a few seasons, our understanding was great and we understood each other on the pitch and the training pitch. Now hopefully I can carry on that with Torres," said Keane. "The way he plays, I'll play in the hole. He plays on the shoulder of the defender and I think that will suit me and that we'll complement each other. I don't think I'll have to change." The only question mark now lingers over Xabi Alonso. Benitez admits: "If we have a good price for Xabi, maybe we could do business. But also if Xabi does not go I will be really pleased, because Xabi is a good player and we don't have any problems." Not exactly a heartfelt declaration of intent by his manager. But then we all know thatXabi needs to move on, to help facilitate Barry's move.

    At a time when a host of other managers get their mitigation in first by insisting there are "pieces of the jigsaw still missing" – not least at Spurs, who, never mind Bentley's signing, will see their striking options reduced even further if Berbatov heads to Old Trafford – the midfielder's signature appears all that remains of this annual puzzle for Benitez, who has also signed Philipp Degen and Andrea Dossena, from Borussia Dortmund and Udinese respectively. They are both attacking full-backs and will add width.

    It enables Benitez to claim: "We know we need to work on new signings and we need to keep the balance, but I think we are very, very close now."

    And that is tantamount to the voice of a satisfied manager. A rare event in recent years at Anfield. And certainly an unusual occurrence in the Premier League of 2008.

    #2
    It's a nice article.

    I am very impressed with how the squad is looking this season, especially when we sign Barry. I know a lot of people don't rate him but I certainly do. I would still like to see a Silva type player come in but you can't have everything.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Maz View Post
      Article from the Independent today.....

      Robbie and Barry can be final pieces in the Liverpool jigsaw as the mad, mad world of the Premier League kicks off again.

      Not long now. It's like listening out for the first cuckoo of spring. When Harry Redknapp starts to curse that he can't possibly contemplate Europe and the League with such slender resources and Alan Curbishley complains about injuries and – God help us – "burn-out" beforea ball is kicked in anger, you know the Premier League is nearly upon us. It is confirmed when the players, too, begin pledging undying allegiances, with the former Arsenal man David Bentley declaring, without apparent irony, that his heart is at Tottenham. Meanwhile Spurs fans will be relieved to know Robbie Keane still has a place in his for them, though he would much rather be at Anfield, where he has arrived to discover Rafa Benitez stating: "This is the best squad I've had since I arrived." The strikermay well discover that this is no false optimism.

      In the mad mad, mad, mad world of the Premier League, no fewer than 73 players have already been conscripted by clubs this summer, for fees, on frees and on loan, and there remains nearly a month of trafficking yet before the window closes. There has been more trying on of new shirts than at a discount Gant outlet, more professing of faith (to a new club badge) than an evening spent at an evangelical church.

      Who knows, Gareth Barry, a man who had set his heart on the Champions' League challenge offered by Liverpool and was virtually out the Villa door, may yet join the jubilant Keane, such is the nature of football brinkmanship. And, if so, of all the deals currently enriching players and their agents – but not necessarily clubs – there is just a suspicion that these two would be the most significant, and herald a change in the great order of things.

      Benitez, just about to begin his fourth season at Anfield, has been talking up Liverpool's chances of claiming a first title since 1990, and for once it could be no idle boast. Taking it a stage further, it could be said that the Spaniard needs his team at least to make an authentic challenge for the title. Memories of Istanbul remain firm foundations for the reputation he created with Valenciabut yield little succour to the club's followers when Manchester United and also Chelsea begin to sprint away in the title race, as habitually they have done.

      Yes, Keane, at 28, is almost certainly overpriced at £20 million. But there is a premium on strikers, at both ends of the table (on that same subject, is Andy Johnson really worth the £13m that Fulham have paid for him?).

      Keane is a clever, intuitive player, and if the new No 7 can contribute what two of the previous occupants of that shirt have over the years at Liverpool it may just turn out to be an astute acquisition. Indeed, as Benitez put it: "If he can give us 80 per cent of what Dalglish and Keegan gave to the club he will be a fantastic player. I think he has enough experience and qual-ity and he will be OK. When you have qualities like he has, you have confidence."

      Crucial will be the Irishman's partnership with Fernando Torres. "If you play 4-2-3-1, he can play in four positions," Benitez said of Keane's versatility. "If you play 4-4-2, it doesn't matter. He can play as a winger or as a striker. When he is on the pitch you always know he is someone who will work hard and will understand the game and will understand what the manager wants. So I think he is good and can fit into different styles during the games. He has a very good mentality, a winning mentality. I think all managers are looking for this with every signing."

      Benitez revealed he had also sought, and been rewarded with, positive reports on Keane from Italy, where the Irish international moved as a 20-year-old to play for Internazionale.

      If Keane achieves a harmony with Torres, it could be the most potent Premier League strikeforce, evoking Liverpool duos of old. "At Tottenham, playing with [Dimitar] Berbatov for a few seasons, our understanding was great and we understood each other on the pitch and the training pitch. Now hopefully I can carry on that with Torres," said Keane. "The way he plays, I'll play in the hole. He plays on the shoulder of the defender and I think that will suit me and that we'll complement each other. I don't think I'll have to change." The only question mark now lingers over Xabi Alonso. Benitez admits: "If we have a good price for Xabi, maybe we could do business. But also if Xabi does not go I will be really pleased, because Xabi is a good player and we don't have any problems." Not exactly a heartfelt declaration of intent by his manager. But then we all know thatXabi needs to move on, to help facilitate Barry's move.

      At a time when a host of other managers get their mitigation in first by insisting there are "pieces of the jigsaw still missing" – not least at Spurs, who, never mind Bentley's signing, will see their striking options reduced even further if Berbatov heads to Old Trafford – the midfielder's signature appears all that remains of this annual puzzle for Benitez, who has also signed Philipp Degen and Andrea Dossena, from Borussia Dortmund and Udinese respectively. They are both attacking full-backs and will add width.

      It enables Benitez to claim: "We know we need to work on new signings and we need to keep the balance, but I think we are very, very close now."

      And that is tantamount to the voice of a satisfied manager. A rare event in recent years at Anfield. And certainly an unusual occurrence in the Premier League of 2008.
      Kwalitee.

      Aye, good article. You're right about Silva, but we are a powerful, powerful team, make no mistake.
      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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        #4
        keane will be a really good signing, just wish it was a few years ago, for instance like when we bought kuyt. barry may make a difference, but it won't be the difference that will stop us conceding goals from set pieces, breaking a team down with 11 defenders or scoring an elusive last minute winner.

        the jigsaw is undoubtedly of better quality BUT still incomplete - we need a midfield playmaker, man beater game winner. maybe silva is that player, but without a player of that style we are incomplete going into the new season.

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          #5
          Originally posted by rage View Post
          breaking a team down with 11 defenders
          Would you agree that our set pieces were generally poor last season? Would you agree that Barry is a good set piece taker? Would you agree that set pieces can be a way of breaking down "11 defenders".

          If the answer to all the above is yes then that is one way that Barry would improve us

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            #6
            Originally posted by Reece View Post
            Would you agree that our set pieces were generally poor last season? Would you agree that Barry is a good set piece taker? Would you agree that set pieces can be a way of breaking down "11 defenders".

            If the answer to all the above is yes then that is one way that Barry would improve us
            i'd like him to try and take the ball off gerrard first but we're not a bolton. you know exactly what i mean. our free kicks aren't bad but our corners have been useless for a long time, i agree that barry would improve us here but we need more.

            do you think the jig saw is complete?

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              #7
              Originally posted by poorscousertommy View Post
              It's a nice article.

              I am very impressed with how the squad is looking this season, especially when we sign Barry. I know a lot of people don't rate him but I certainly do. I would still like to see a Silva type player come in but you can't have everything.
              certainly last season the quality of the squad depth for us and Arsenal compared the mancs and chavs was startling. I remember watching us at old Trafford and we were 1 down, down to 10 men and we were bringing on Yossi to get us into the game, Fergie responded by bringing on Nani and Tevez to kill us off!
              game after, the chavs being 1 down bring on Anelka and Belletti and they ripped through a shaky arsenal team


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                #8
                Originally posted by rage View Post
                i'd like him to try and take the ball off gerrard first but we're not a bolton. you know exactly what i mean. our free kicks aren't bad but our corners have been useless for a long time, i agree that barry would improve us here but we need more.

                do you think the jig saw is complete?
                Not really. But it depends on Rafa's plans on how we play next season. You say we need wingers, he may be thinking we don't, and that we'll get our width from our full backs. For example if we were to play the 4-3-3 style we finished last season with, well that's not really a formation for out and out wingers. So my point is that in Rafa's mind - due to the style he wants to play then yeah, with the addition of Barry the jigsaw may be complete.

                Obviously that is all conjecture, and don't get me wrong, there is not a single Liverpool fan who wouldn't love an out and out winger in the style of say Mcmanaman. But (and no eye rolling here please ) I genuinely have faith that Rafa knows what he is doing. Yeah he makes mistakes, in tactics, signings etc. But if he wants Barry so badly it must be for a specific reason and he must believe he will a)fit in to the system he wants to play and thus b) improve us.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Reece View Post
                  Not really. But it depends on Rafa's plans on how we play next season. You say we need wingers, he may be thinking we don't, and that we'll get our width from our full backs. For example if we were to play the 4-3-3 style we finished last season with, well that's not really a formation for out and out wingers. So my point is that in Rafa's mind - due to the style he wants to play then yeah, with the addition of Barry the jigsaw may be complete.

                  Obviously that is all conjecture, and don't get me wrong, there is not a single Liverpool fan who wouldn't love an out and out winger in the style of say Mcmanaman. But (and no eye rolling here please ) I genuinely have faith that Rafa knows what he is doing. Yeah he makes mistakes, in tactics, signings etc. But if he wants Barry so badly it must be for a specific reason and he must believe he will a)fit in to the system he wants to play and thus b) improve us.
                  Agreed

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Parm View Post
                    certainly last season the quality of the squad depth for us and Arsenal compared the mancs and chavs was startling. I remember watching us at old Trafford and we were 1 down, down to 10 men and we were bringing on Yossi to get us into the game, Fergie responded by bringing on Nani and Tevez to kill us off!
                    game after, the chavs being 1 down bring on Anelka and Belletti and they ripped through a shaky arsenal team
                    but we were only 11 points off the top despite that difference in the squad. thats a couple of wins off the top boys and a handful of draws into wins against the lower teams. improving the consistency and accuracy of set pieces means more goals from the likes of sami, agger and skrtel whilst can change many of those games massively. the addition of robbie keane upgrades our attacking threat all round. also ngog & babel offer real, real pace (if inconsistency).

                    if we get rid of pennant + xabi for silva too then we're looking really good for being very close to the title.

                    a good summer for us this one. rid of deadwood for decent money and some quality additions. looking forward to it.

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                      #11
                      I think all journos should be banned from using the phrase "final piece in the jigsaw" we seem to have it every season...
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                        #12
                        We will not win the title or come close.

                        The style of our play is inadequate to do that in this day and age, and our first team and squad are not as strong as Chavski and Manure.

                        So unless the latter two implode or have a really bad season for any reason then 3rd is the best we can hope for

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                          #13
                          I think with the additions of Keane, Barry (maybe) and Dossena (who is improving game by game), not to mention having Agger back and Skrtel settled in, our first team and squad are comparable with the Mancs and Chelski ...

                          We can make a real push of it this season.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by redheart View Post
                            We will not win the title or come close.

                            The style of our play is inadequate to do that in this day and age, and our first team and squad are not as strong as Chavski and Manure.

                            So unless the latter two implode or have a really bad season for any reason then 3rd is the best we can hope for
                            Had we turned some of those draws into wins last year of course we would have come very close. Benitez has only strengthened this close season - Keane, Dossena and Agger are three first team players who we didn't have last year. Riise's departure alone should be worth c. 6 points a season. Have Chelsea or ManUre strengthened? Not obviously imo. Arsenal have got weaker if anything. That's not blind optimism - it's the reality.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by redheart View Post
                              We will not win the title or come close.

                              The style of our play is inadequate to do that in this day and age, and our first team and squad are not as strong as Chavski and Manure.

                              So unless the latter two implode or have a really bad season for any reason then 3rd is the best we can hope for
                              another negative post redheart

                              your spelling was fantastic for sure, but the sentiment, as always was dire
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