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    #16
    Lets do this properly - from the UEFA rules found here:

    IX Player Eligibility
    Article 17
    General provisions
    17.01 In order to be eligible to participate in the UEFA club competitions, players
    must be registered with UEFA within the requested deadlines to play for a
    club and fulfil all the conditions set out in the following provisions. Only
    eligible players can serve pending suspensions.
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    17.02 Each club is responsible for submitting an A list of players (“List A”) and a B
    list of players (“List B”), duly signed, to its national association for verification,
    validation, signature and forwarding to UEFA. These lists must include the
    name, date of birth, shirt number and name, nationality and national
    registration date of all players to be fielded in the UEFA club competition in
    question.
    17.03 The club bears the legal consequences for fielding a player who is not
    named on list A or B, or who is otherwise not eligible to play.
    17.04 The UEFA administration decides on questions of player eligibility.
    Challenged decisions are dealt with by the Control and Disciplinary Body.
    17.05 Players must be duly registered with the national association concerned in
    accordance with the national association’s own rules and those of FIFA,
    notably the FIFA Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players.
    17.06 A player registered with one national association may only be registered with
    another national association once the latter has received the International
    Transfer Certificate from the national association that the player is leaving.
    17.07 Excluding the three rounds of the UEFA Intertoto Cup and the UEFA Super
    Cup, and subject to paragraph 17.18 below, a player may not play UEFA
    club competition matches for more than one competing club in the course of
    the same season. A substitute player who is not fielded is entitled to play for
    another club competing in the same season’s UEFA club competitions,
    provided that he is registered with the UEFA administration in accordance
    with the present Regulations.
    Conditions for Registration: List A
    17.08 No club may have more than 25 players on List A during the season. As a
    minimum, places 18 to 25 on List A (eight places) are reserved exclusively
    for “locally trained players” and no club may have more than four
    “association-trained players” listed in places 18 to 25 on List A. List A must
    specify the eight players who qualify as being “locally trained”, as well as
    whether they are “club-trained” or “association-trained”. The possible
    combinations that enable clubs to comply with the List A requirements are
    set out in Annex VIII.
    17.09 A “locally trained player” is either a “club-trained player” or an “association-
    trained player”.
    17.10 A “club-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the start of
    the season during which he turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during
    which he turns 21), and irrespective of his nationality and age, has been
    registered with his current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire
    seasons (i.e. a period starting with the first official match of the relevant
    national championship and ending with the last official match of that relevant
    national championship) or of 36 months.
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    17.11 An “association-trained player” is a player who, between the age of 15 (or the
    start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of
    the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of his
    nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs
    affiliated to the same national association as that of his current club for a
    period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or of 36 months.
    17.12 If a club has fewer than eight locally trained players in its squad (i.e. in places
    18 to 25 on List A), then the maximum number of players on List A is
    reduced accordingly. Furthermore, if a club lists a player in places 18 to 25
    on List A who does not fulfil the conditions set out in this article, that player is
    not eligible to participate for the club in the UEFA club competition(s) in
    question and the club is unable to replace him on List A.
    17.13 List A has to be submitted by the following fixed deadlines:
    a) 8 July 2008 (24.00 CET): for all matches in the first qualifying round;
    b) 24 July 2008 (24.00 CET): for all matches in the second qualifying round;
    c) 7 August 2008 (24.00 CET): for all matches in the third qualifying round;
    d) 1 September 2008 (24.00 CET): for all further matches as from the first
    match in the group stage up to and including the final.
    17.14 For the three UEFA Champions League qualifying rounds, after the above-
    mentioned qualifying dates, one player on List A may be changed until 24.00
    CET on the day before the relevant first-leg match, provided that the club’s
    national association confirms in writing that the new player is eligible to play
    at domestic level at this time.
    Conditions for registration: List B
    17.15 Each club is entitled to register an unlimited number of players on List B
    during the season. The list must be submitted by no later than 24.00 CET on
    the day before the match in question.
    17.16 A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 1987
    and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted
    period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with
    UEFA. Players aged 16 may be registered on List B if they have been
    registered with the participating club for the previous two years without
    interruption.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #17
      No mention of limits to changes there I don't think.
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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        #18
        Presumably N'gog and Nemeth aren't in the squad because we'd have too many foreign players, I've no idea why Dossena isn't on the list, especially as Babel is in there and is away at olymics, while the other two at the Olympics (Mascherano and Lucas) aren't so presumably the squad can be changed after the qualifiers (if we qualify)

        The players with stars next to their names are the B list so don't count in the quota

        Of the players on the list i'm assuming the following are "locally trained": Kelly, Finnan, Carragher, Darby, Gerrard, Pennant, Spearing and Keane
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          #19
          tosh site as they only have 4 European Cups to our name

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            #20
            That list doesn't make any sense.

            There's no reason Dossena shouldn't be in that squad, he's our first choice LB.

            Surely it's bull.
            A humble guy with healthy desire.

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              #21
              Agreed, it doesn't make sense. Why include Babel if you exclude Lucas and Mascherano particularly when doing so means you exclude N'Gog and Dossena who as far as I am aware are both available to play in either game.

              Degen is presumably injured for the next few weeks. While Aurelio and Skrtel may miss the first leg, they may be back for the second leg so that would be why they would be included.

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                #22
                Rafa has said that the team tomorrow will basically be the same as against Lazio, so that would suggest Dossena will be playing, no?

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                  #23
                  From what I remember you can change it as much as you like after the qualifying rounds and then also have a limited number of changes (4?) you can make at a set point during/after the group stages. Squad still doesn't make much sense though
                  Like blood on iron

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View Post
                    That list doesn't make any sense.

                    There's no reason Dossena shouldn't be in that squad, he's our first choice LB.

                    Surely it's bull.
                    He’s hardly claimed that accolade yet.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ballykissdevil View Post
                      He’s hardly claimed that accolade yet.

                      Costing £7 million means he has a pretty strong claim for being 1st choice!!!

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                        #26
                        babel may be in there in case he's available for the second leg, as for Dossena, haven't a clue why he's not there
                        Thomas Hicks Senior

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                          #27
                          Steven Irwin is in at defence. He is a midfielder. I reckon its a ****ed up list
                          “Hicks could have purchased Dallas’ MLS franchise but decided not to. ‘In hindsight, I probably made the wrong decision,’ he said.“.

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                            #28
                            I'm willing to bet my daily dose of potassium that that's not the real list.
                            A humble guy with healthy desire.

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                              #29
                              Ngog and Numeth borned in 1989, so they can be put in List B anytime before the match day. Lucus borned in 1987 would also eligible through List B. I guess Dossena may still have license issue.

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                                #30
                                According to Rule 17.14 above, Dossena can be slotted in before the match day as well as a List A player.

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