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    Lee Dixon On Keane



    I was intrigued to see Robbie Keane in action for Liverpool after moving for such a huge transfer fee in the summer.

    At Tottenham he was such a big influence on their team and enjoyed a good partnership with Dimitar Berbatov.


    Keane scored 23 goals last season and many of them came from his link play with Berbatov.

    Could he strike up as good a partnership with Fernando Torres?

    But when the teams lined-up he was on the left wing in a five-man midfield.

    As a former full-back, if I was playing against Keane and he was stuck out on the left-wing against me I would be really pleased.

    He is a lot more dangerous in and around the centre forward in front of goal, so you want him as far away from those areas as possible.

    Keane started on the left side but he clearly does not want to play there, so he tends to get the ball and cut inside.

    But then he offloads it and he is so keen to get the ball that he goes searching for it. His natural inclination takes him to the middle of the pitch or even the right side.

    If he is playing in the hole that is fine because he is not vacating anywhere, but when he is supposed to be out wide that means he leaves a huge gap on Liverpool's left side.

    On two or three occasions we had the situation where Xabi Alonso looked to play the ball out to the left and there was nobody there.

    Keane's presence in the centre made it so tight in that area in front of goal.

    They had a situation where six Liverpool players were so close to each other. With Villa players in there as well it is so crowded and easier to defend.

    Ironically, it was after Torres got injured that Keane began to affect the game.

    David Ngog came on as substitute for Torres and Keane was moved inside to his normal position in the hole where he is so difficult to mark.

    That allowed Keane to play in and around the centre-forward and almost straight away he created a shooting chance for Ngog, only for him to fire over the bar.

    Lucas moved to the left to provide an option there rather than a big hole.

    We saw another goalscoring opportunity in the second half when Keane set up Alonso.

    Keane even had an opportunity himself when he was played through the middle.

    It was a great chance but he just did not look like scoring and there was a real indicator that he is short of confidence.

    He had two looks over his shoulder before he had the shot that allowed Nigel Reo-Coker to get back and put him off.

    In that position you would expect Keane to get the ball down, run on and score the goal.

    The Irishman just does not seem to be completely happy with his football and that reflects in the need for a goal to give him a boost.

    From the very first minute of the game he looked like he did not want to be there.

    He looked so much happier when he was in the hole. He did not have a great game but he still affected the play three or four times, whereas on the left he did not impact at all.

    They spent the summer chasing Villa's Gareth Barry, but while he can play wide on the left he would realistically have simply taken the place of Alonso.

    Signing Espanyol's Albert Riera could be the answer but they have tried using Ryan Babel there and Jermaine Pennant, but for whatever reason they have not worked.

    Liverpool have strength in the centre of midfield but the wide positions have been a problem area and they end up playing so narrow.

    Rafa Benitez set his team out not to give anything away, they were without the drive of Steven Gerrard and they lost to Torres to injury.

    So a draw at Villa is hardly a disaster and Benitez will probably be happy enough.

    I just think he should have been a bit more adventurous.

    Maybe it was a one off and Keane was just doing a job for the team.

    I just do not see why you would pay over £20m for someone who scores goals and is so dangerous and then stick him out on the left wing.



    Good article

    #2
    Sadly i agree with most of that
    We come not to play.

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      #3
      Sad thing is that it's so bleedin obvious that even Lee Dixon can see it.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Operation View Post
        Sad thing is that it's so bleedin obvious that even Lee Dixon can see it.
        indeed. and you know something - i bet the players on the pitch can see this as well.

        how long if it carries on like this before rafa loses the dressing room?

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          #5
          How come Fergie doesn't get the same **** for playing Rooney out wide, or Wenger for RVP? How comes Manure fans don't get on his case for it? Couldn't be better fans, could they?
          The Crushing Machine MKII

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            #6
            Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
            How come Fergie doesn't get the same **** for playing Rooney out wide, or Wenger for RVP? How comes Manure fans don't get on his case for it? Couldn't be better fans, could they?
            maybe because both fergie and wenger are proven multi premiership winning managers and rafa isn't? nothing to do with fans.

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              #7
              Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
              How come Fergie doesn't get the same **** for playing Rooney out wide, or Wenger for RVP? How comes Manure fans don't get on his case for it? Couldn't be better fans, could they?
              Man Utd and arsenal play fast arracking football that is good for fans to watch and that, in Utd's case, wins a lot of matches. Pretty simple really.
              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                #8
                I agree with Dixon too - it's something that really baffles me about Rafa.

                Keane needs to stay central.
                Like blood on iron

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rafa_el_Gafa View Post
                  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/7591343.stm

                  I was intrigued to see Robbie Keane in action for Liverpool after moving for such a huge transfer fee in the summer.

                  At Tottenham he was such a big influence on their team and enjoyed a good partnership with Dimitar Berbatov.


                  Keane scored 23 goals last season and many of them came from his link play with Berbatov.

                  Could he strike up as good a partnership with Fernando Torres?

                  But when the teams lined-up he was on the left wing in a five-man midfield.

                  As a former full-back, if I was playing against Keane and he was stuck out on the left-wing against me I would be really pleased.

                  He is a lot more dangerous in and around the centre forward in front of goal, so you want him as far away from those areas as possible.

                  Keane started on the left side but he clearly does not want to play there, so he tends to get the ball and cut inside.

                  But then he offloads it and he is so keen to get the ball that he goes searching for it. His natural inclination takes him to the middle of the pitch or even the right side.

                  If he is playing in the hole that is fine because he is not vacating anywhere, but when he is supposed to be out wide that means he leaves a huge gap on Liverpool's left side.

                  On two or three occasions we had the situation where Xabi Alonso looked to play the ball out to the left and there was nobody there.

                  Keane's presence in the centre made it so tight in that area in front of goal.

                  They had a situation where six Liverpool players were so close to each other. With Villa players in there as well it is so crowded and easier to defend.

                  Ironically, it was after Torres got injured that Keane began to affect the game.

                  David Ngog came on as substitute for Torres and Keane was moved inside to his normal position in the hole where he is so difficult to mark.

                  That allowed Keane to play in and around the centre-forward and almost straight away he created a shooting chance for Ngog, only for him to fire over the bar.

                  Lucas moved to the left to provide an option there rather than a big hole.

                  We saw another goalscoring opportunity in the second half when Keane set up Alonso.

                  Keane even had an opportunity himself when he was played through the middle.

                  It was a great chance but he just did not look like scoring and there was a real indicator that he is short of confidence.

                  He had two looks over his shoulder before he had the shot that allowed Nigel Reo-Coker to get back and put him off.

                  In that position you would expect Keane to get the ball down, run on and score the goal.

                  The Irishman just does not seem to be completely happy with his football and that reflects in the need for a goal to give him a boost.

                  From the very first minute of the game he looked like he did not want to be there.

                  He looked so much happier when he was in the hole. He did not have a great game but he still affected the play three or four times, whereas on the left he did not impact at all.

                  They spent the summer chasing Villa's Gareth Barry, but while he can play wide on the left he would realistically have simply taken the place of Alonso.

                  Signing Espanyol's Albert Riera could be the answer but they have tried using Ryan Babel there and Jermaine Pennant, but for whatever reason they have not worked.

                  Liverpool have strength in the centre of midfield but the wide positions have been a problem area and they end up playing so narrow.

                  Rafa Benitez set his team out not to give anything away, they were without the drive of Steven Gerrard and they lost to Torres to injury.

                  So a draw at Villa is hardly a disaster and Benitez will probably be happy enough.

                  I just think he should have been a bit more adventurous.

                  Maybe it was a one off and Keane was just doing a job for the team.

                  I just do not see why you would pay over £20m for someone who scores goals and is so dangerous and then stick him out on the left wing.



                  Good article
                  He makes some good points but I wouldn't go so far as to say good article. It looks like it was written by some underachieving GCSE student.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rage View Post
                    maybe because both fergie and wenger are proven multi premiership winning managers and rafa isn't? nothing to do with fans.
                    So IT IS because it is Rafa and not whether the move makes sense or not? Like I said great fans!
                    The Crushing Machine MKII

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NICKZS View Post
                      He makes some good points but I wouldn't go so far as to say good article. It looks like it was written by some underachieving GCSE student.
                      he probably was
                      _____________________________________

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Operation View Post
                        Man Utd and arsenal play fast arracking football that is good for fans to watch and that, in Utd's case, wins a lot of matches. Pretty simple really.
                        You mean like us at the tail end of the season? Like us who scored more goals than any other PL team last year? Like us who have won more since Rafa has been here than Arsenal.
                        The Crushing Machine MKII

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by red g View Post
                          he probably was
                          Sometimes they surprise you; Danny Mills had 12 of 'em or something.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                            So IT IS because it is Rafa and not whether the move makes sense or not? Like I said great fans!
                            come on el jef explain to me any reason whatsoever WE would buy robbie keane for 20 million and play him on the left? of course its Rafa its not like the lads decided he'll play there 'cos he fancies a change.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                              How come Fergie doesn't get the same **** for playing Rooney out wide, or Wenger for RVP? How comes Manure fans don't get on his case for it? Couldn't be better fans, could they?
                              A bit unnecessarily defensive, that. It's just a constructive criticism. And let's not invoke the superfan debate...

                              RVP doesn't get played out of position, he's played both left wing and centre forward regularly since he was a kid. I think Fergie would get **** for playing Rooney out wide if that decision meant his team underperformed. I think we were worse off playing Keane out wide.
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