Any Truth In This?

[rage]

typical scum - even in a key historical moment for them they need to try and belittle our greater achievements.

I can deal with friendly banter but i think events such as munich, hysel, hillsborough were shared tragedies for everyone. there's a world of difference from singing john terry's ma likes scouse cock to this. and as for the players joining in - ****ing scum!

[Tee]

Part of me wants the fact that the actual Manc players were singing it given more coverage in the media so more people can see what despicable creatures they are.

That is utterly shocking and sickening, but what makes it worse for me is the fact that Oliver Kay knew what they sung in Moscow but chose not to report it, yet he felt compelled to report the chants by a few morons at Goodison on Saturday.

Can't work that one out - I mean if you want to send a message than surely the shaming of the Man Utd players on such an historic occasion for their team would have sent a far stronger message than trying to shame our fans.

[BFG]

That is utterly shocking and sickening, but what makes it worse for me is the fact that Oliver Kay knew what they sung in Moscow but chose not to report it, yet he felt compelled to report the chants by a few morons at Goodison on Saturday.

Can't work that one out - I mean if you want to send a message than surely the shaming of the Man Utd players on such an historic occasion for their team would have sent a far stronger message than trying to shame our fans.

Exactly mate, kind of makes you think he's talking out of his arse doesn't it, or he's a Man U fan.

[Shaggy]

That is utterly shocking and sickening, but what makes it worse for me is the fact that Oliver Kay knew what they sung in Moscow but chose not to report it, yet he felt compelled to report the chants by a few morons at Goodison on Saturday.

Can't work that one out - I mean if you want to send a message than surely the shaming of the Man Utd players on such an historic occasion for their team would have sent a far stronger message than trying to shame our fans.

Great point mate – why don’t you ask him?

[Tee]

Great point mate – why don’t you ask him?

Is his email addy available anywhere?

[Vermilion]

Great point mate – why don’t you ask him?

needs explaining imo.

Ps. Shaggy, how come you and PTP have the same avatar.

[PTP]

needs explaining imo.

Ps. Shaggy, how come you and PTP have the same avatar.

we don't

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=54841

[Woobus]

Coming from Northern Ireland and used to go to a lot of football matches over here during the troubles. The chants at our games used to be a hell of a lot closer to home due to the time scale of the events.
Most of the songs shouldnt be sung but if you ask me thats the normal about football fans. We sang songs at them and they sang songs at us. Some on here pretend we dont sing the Munich song, just like United fans pretend they sing the sick songs as well.
I dont get across to enough games and never been to a match against United, but it is just a myth that these songs get song by alot of fans like in any big match against the enemy?

[Vermilion]

we don't

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=54841

Oh i saw this thread at its conception...and i see you both picked the same year...but it's just incredible how similar you both look...except for Shaggys crooked glasses.

As you can see i went to a college on the reservation....and i'm a bit old.

[Skillz]

That is utterly shocking and sickening, but what makes it worse for me is the fact that Oliver Kay knew what they sung in Moscow but chose not to report it, yet he felt compelled to report the chants by a few morons at Goodison on Saturday.

Can't work that one out - I mean if you want to send a message than surely the shaming of the Man Utd players on such an historic occasion for their team would have sent a far stronger message than trying to shame our fans.

I can understand the outrage here but perhaps the media feel that if they start reporting poor performances by the supporters we will be on a pretty bad street. Yes I know this was their team but it is a fans song and reporting it will only start a very ugly train of crap reporting every poor performance by supporter groups.

It's very, very disappointing to read that the Manc players sang this (if true) but I hope the media do not start down this path. It will only get uglier and probably result in ****ehouse supporters trying to out do each other in their ****eness.

[PTP]

i may change mine as people seem to be getting me and shaggy mixed up - or i may continue to post just after shaggy in every thread to confuse people haha

[BFG]

I can understand the outrage here but perhaps the media feel that if they start reporting poor performances by the supporters we will be on a pretty bad street. Yes I know this was their team but it is a fans song and reporting it will only start a very ugly train of crap reporting every poor performance by supporters group.

It's very, very disappointing to read that the Manc players sang this (if true) but I hope the media do not start down this path. It will only get uglier and probably result in ****ehouse supporters trying to out do each other in their ****eness.

But Kay wrote about what Liverpool fans said on Saturday so if he's taking that stance (or he's wanting us to believe he is) why not speak up about what the Man U players supposedly sang in Moscow until now after he's evidently had a lot of **** about it from Liverpool fans?

[Skillz]

But Kay wrote about what Liverpool fans said on Saturday so if he's taking that stance (or he's wanting us to believe he is) why not speak up about what the Man U players supposedly sang in Moscow until now after he's evidently had a lot of **** about it from Liverpool fans?

I think Kay is wrong to raise this. Supporters will do as they please and if the media highlight something they will probably respond with more of the same.

Kay has the right motives but if he thinks he is going to change anything by his article he is wrong. Bringing up the Manc's players singing that ****e is not going to help is it. It's very wrong, do not for one second misunderstand me here, but bringing it up now is going to do what exactly?

Increase the hate and vitriol between both clubs if anything. It certainly won't stop the ****e sang at games between the clubs.

[BFG]

I think Kay is wrong to raise this. Supporters will do as they please and if the media highlight something they will probably respond with more of the same.

Kay has the right motives but if he thinks he is going to change anything by his article he is wrong. Bringing up the Manc's players singing that ****e is not going to help is it. It's very wrong, do not for one second misunderstand me here, but bringing it up now is going to do what exactly?

Increase the hate and vitriol between both clubs if anything. It certainly won't stop the ****e sang at games between the clubs.

I agree with all of that mate and it applies to what the Man U players may have sang in Munich and what our fans may have sang on Saturday.

The problem here is why did Kay feel the need to raise what happened on Saturday at his first available opportunity but not what happened in Moscow?

[Tee]

I agree with all of that mate and it applies to what the Man U players may have sang in Munich and what our fans may have sang on Saturday.

The problem here is why did Kay feel the need to raise what happened on Saturday at his first available opportunity but not what happened in Moscow?

What I said.

And what I will be asking Kay in an email this evening. This is shocking hypocrisy that we should not let hime get away with. I feel very strongly about this and hope he has the balls to reply to me.