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    #76
    Yep, would like to see Gerrard playing closer to the opponents goal more often, as you say a free role, but played with a level of discipline, which i think he's more than capable of doing.
    Last edited by Vermilion; 20-10-08, 10:45 PM.

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      #77
      Signs are looking good going into the Chelsea match. I'm actually not afraid, which is very surprising considering how well they're playing. With Scolari not knowing if Torres and Babel will be fit or not, and whether Kuyt will need special attention for a change this might just work in our favour.

      Saying that, I'd be over the moon if we only lost by one goal.

      One tit for another.

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        #78
        Originally posted by BigChief View Post
        Signs are looking good going into the Chelsea match. I'm actually not afraid, which is very surprising considering how well they're playing. With Scolari not knowing if Torres and Babel will be fit or not, and whether Kuyt will need special attention for a change this might just work in our favour.

        Saying that, I'd be over the moon if we only lost by one goal.

        **** me i bet he's sorry he mentioned that now.

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          #79
          Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
          And that's why i didn't quote anyone.

          If you believe Lucas would have a better game against Chelsea than Gerrard did against Wigan that's fine, i dont, i'm just not convinced with Lucas yet, i know he has talent, but i'm yet to be convinced the Prem is the place for him to show it, but he's young and seems keen, and is level headed, so he can definitely learn given time and games.
          See my reply to Craig_h. It's not about Lucas, or about SG, or about El Jefecito, or about Xabi. It's about balance and even though Lucas is NOT better than SG, I think there is a case to be made that the team is better when he plays where SG plays today. Admittedly, only because SG is a better AM than probably anyone else in the world.

          But be fair, against Wigan, SG was crap. 1 tackle in the whole game. **** it, I can play SG in CM and get 1 tackle, or I can play him behind the striker and get 5 setups for shots on goal. My thought. Chuck Lucas in CM, he'll get 2 tackles and let's have SG setup 5 goals!!!!!!!!

          So stop being so assinine as to post "If you believe Lucas would have a better game against Chelsea than Gerrard did" and relate to the facts".
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            #80
            Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
            See my reply to Craig_h. It's not about Lucas, or about SG, or about El Jefecito, or about Xabi. It's about balance and even though Lucas is NOT better than SG, I think there is a case to be made that the team is better when he plays where SG plays today. Admittedly, only because SG is a better AM than probably anyone else in the world.

            But be fair, against Wigan, SG was crap. 1 tackle in the whole game. **** it, I can play SG in CM and get 1 tackle, or I can play him behind the striker and get 5 setups for shots on goal. My thought. Chuck Lucas in CM, he'll get 2 tackles and let's have SG setup 5 goals!!!!!!!!

            So stop being so assinine as to post "If you believe Lucas would have a better game against Chelsea than Gerrard did" and relate to the facts".
            Bossy so and so aren't ya..........

            If you checked you'd see my first post was in reaction to Craig_h saying "In all honesty though, you wouldnt pick him ahead of SG." to which i made the comment "Lucas instead of Gerrard at Chelsea, no thanks". Then i get someone telling me something about flogging horses.

            Ps, it's asinine, nothing to do with a donkey.
            Last edited by Vermilion; 20-10-08, 11:06 PM.

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              #81
              Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
              by the way ElJefico.....you talk a lot of sense tonight mate.... i wouldn't have SG in centre midfield either.....and i have said that since rafa arrived at lfc to be honest.

              i ****in hate it when the likes of jamie redknapp and andy gray blow on about stevie needing to play in the middle of the park - ****in idiots.... gerrard is a class player and all class players make teams pay when they have space and time on the ball. Put a player like gerrard either on the wing cutting in or else in a free role behind a striker and watch him fluorish.... and no **** sherlock, when has gerrard scored most, played his best, and caused the opposition most damage - either in the free role or on the wing.


              I would love to see the likes of gray and redknapp take a managerial job so that they could FAIL and then **** off the tele and shut the **** up. They love to talk ****e like "gerrard needs to be in the middle of the park so he can dictate the play" - well ****wads, if he is in the middle of the park, he could very well be crowded out of it by the likes of nicky butt!!! If you look at the history of football and the most influential players, they didn't ALL play centre midfield. I think just cos Keane and Viera were centre midfielders, everyone thinks gerrard should be too. I would ask you this though, where did Zidane play on the park? Or maradona????

              plus in mascher and alonso, we have two class centre midfielders anyway who can do what good centre midfielders do - which is stop the oppositions attacks and give the ball to players that will hurt the opposition - like Gerrard.....
              Frank, I don't know you, but can only commend you for having the courage to arrive at your own opinions based on what you see.

              The world would be a better place if I didn't have to trawl through the opinions of TV pundits represented as those of posters that are posted on here after matchdays.
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                #82
                Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
                Bossy so and so aren't ya..........
                Bossy? Nah, asshole, is what most call me ****er, is that they are usually right BTW Check w/Sarb24, I hate to admit it, but he has me sussed to a tee.
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                  Bossy? Nah, asshole, is what most call me ****er, is that they are usually right BTW Check w/Sarb24, I hate to admit it, but he has me sussed to a tee.
                  No need to check, i've seen your posts and i don't come to the conclusion your an Asshole, you have a knowledge of the game for sure, and a forthright opinion, nothing wrong with that.

                  Now it's time i turned this laptop off and thought about doing a couple of things before getting some shut eye, so i will bid you good night, or good day depending what time it is where you are.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                    Frank, I don't know you, but can only commend you for having the courage to arrive at your own opinions based on what you see.

                    The world would be a better place if I didn't have to trawl through the opinions of TV pundits represented as those of posters that are posted on here after matchdays.


                    i agree completely bud - some of the ****e you read on here, and on other sites, is basically a load of cock regurgitated from the likes of paul stupid-****wit-gambling-druggie-loser merson......... annoys the **** out of me to be honest...

                    also, about a year or 18 months ago, when the pundits were at full throtel with the stevie-in-the-centre ****e, i actually thought we should sell the guy simply because i really thought that the whole thing was coming from him saying to his mates in the media to speak for him and put rafa under pressure.... i thought that stevie was basically throwing his toys out of the ****in pram!!! I genuinely feel that he has matured a hell of a lot in the last year or so though and i reckon he knows now that rafa has made him 5 times the player he was..... I reckon Owen must be gutted he didnt stick around because he will never know how good he could have been!

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
                      No need to check, i've seen your posts and i don't come to the conclusion your an Asshole, you have a knowledge of the game for sure, and a forthright opinion, nothing wrong with that.

                      Now it's time i turned this laptop off and thought about doing a couple of things before getting some shut eye, so i will bid you good night, or good day depending what time it is where you are.
                      You are more a gentleman than am i Have a good night!!!!!
                      The Crushing Machine MKII

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