was / is keane worth 20 million?

[saj]

Keane worked harder in that one game than Garcia did in his whole Liverpool career.

Garcia cost less than 1/3 of the the amount we paid for Keane, but yet contributed to more goals/assists than Keane has so far in their respective first 4 months. And Garcia wasn't even a striker - I'd still have him over Keane. At the end of the day, Garcia proved he was a matchwinner. What would you rather have a - a striker who costs £20m, works hard, completes more air shots in 4 months than Andy Cole did in his whole career, scores a couple of goals and gets a couple of assists. Or would you rather have a concise striker who puts the ball in the back of the net? No matter what anyone says, Keane has proved nothing and has been nothing short of woeful. In fact, I'm pretty certain Voronin got more goals and assists in his first 4 months than Keane has and thats saying something.

[Woobus]

Keane has proved nothing and has been nothing short of woeful. In fact, I'm pretty certain Voronin got more goals and assists in his first 4 months than Keane has and thats saying something.

Thats very harsh, the first 4 or so games he wasnt at his best. Recently he has been playing well and has helped us to some of our best football in a long time.

[SB]

Obviously he is/was worth the 20 mil cause the yanks don't throw money around like there's no tomorrow do they ?

I'm confident that he will prove the doubters wrong. My only concern with the price we paid is there will be next to no resale value due to his age. But what the heck, it ain't my money

[RedReet]

keane wasn't bought to harass defenders and yes i've seen garcia harass defenders whilst playing for us. just to jog your memory go and replay extra time of the champions league final. garcia regularly harassed defenders.

also come the end of the season keane's misses against stoke could prove vitally important.

do you really think keane's been the player we'd hope to be to date? how much more could we have got villa for? not a lot imo and we'd have sell on value too.

keane only makes sense if we win the title, and even then unless he improves then it'll simply mask we won the title inspite of him not because of him.

come on i like everyone wants keane to succeed but he's not looked like the player we hoped for so far.

Keane also wasn’t bought to play the lone striker role. He was bought to compliment Torres and to create goals as much as score them. Thus far, they haven’t had a decent run of games together, so much of the pre-season training working with Torres has gone out the window, and he’s had to play an unexpected role so early into his Liverpool career.

He’s done a fairly decent job, and has definitely contributed to us being joint top. A good example of his worth to the team was when he went off against Spurs and the team struggled. Once him and Riera went off, we were unable to keep any sort of possession in Spurs half, and who’s to say this mightn’t have been the case against other teams without Keane.

The general consensus is he wasn’t worth £20m, which is arguably true, but how often have people cried out for proven Premiership talent, which is exactly what Robbie Keane is.

[Dessy]

Obviously he is/was worth the 20 mil cause the yanks don't throw money around like there's no tomorrow do they ?

I'm confident that he will prove the doubters wrong. My only concern with the price we paid is there will be next to no resale value due to his age. But what the heck, it ain't my money

Which for me was probably the only reason I thought he was overvalued in the first place, age.

A couple of years younger and the £20 million is maybe not such a big issue?

[barnes10]

Yes he's worth it.

keane has been a regular for us this season - whilst torres has missed as much as he's played. this is our best start to a season. keane is causing a lot of problems for defenders and adds a very useful dimension to our attack. thats often ovelooked. just as kuyt helps torres and gerrard look good. keane and riera help others look good by creating space for them. that is, if anything, the major thing we've been missing during rafa's time here as we've rarely been a balanced side.

for that, he's worth signing and the right signing. the price, unfortunately, is out of our hands. who else would we have signed?

lets give him the whole season before asking this question. and at least 2 season before we consider classing him as a waste of money. i believe he will become well worth his fee. he's settling into a new club, he's always finished seasons more strongly than he starts them (in terms of goals) and rafa's finish the season better than we start it.

im optimistic. a difficult start is better for him in the long run i think. better than swanning in and finding it all really easy. he knows that his time at anfield is something he'll have to work hard at for as long as he's here.

[SB]

Which for me was probably the only reason I thought he was overvalued in the first place, age.

A couple of years younger and the £20 million is maybe not such a big issue?

Can't argue with that

[Pacman]

Who gives a ****?

He hasn't set the world on fire with us yet however he hasn't played badly at all. We are 2nd in the league on goal difference and Torres has been injured most of the season.

Just imagine what we will be like when these 2 start banging the goals in.

Number 19 is coming home and when it does I will be on this site giving it a big **** You to some members.

[dww]

I really can't see the point of judging people so early in their LFC careers. I really think that this sort of discussion is pretty pointless until the end of the season.

[saj]

Thats very harsh, the first 4 or so games he wasnt at his best. Recently he has been playing well and has helped us to some of our best football in a long time.

It's my opinion. In the 20 games he has played, he's offered very little. He has no excuses - he's played in the premiership for the majority of his career and his settling in should have been a couple of games at most. A few of my Tottenham supporting mates were laughing when we signed him and are laughing even more now. He has not been playing well at all. The only 2 decent performances he's put in so far have been against West Brom and Everton. I will also give him credit for the amount of running/hard work he did against United. So that in my opinion is 3 decent performancesout of 20. We were playing decent football for the majority of last season and are now playing good football due our ball retention - we're passig and moving the ball better due to Xabi and Riera. Although we're playing well now, we've not been concise enough in the final third and Keane has played a lot of games now up front and it doesn't help when completes so many air shots when he has virtually an open goal in front of him. The bare basics of any football player is to be able to kick a flippin ball and not air. A player who cost £20M should be able to kick a ball as well as walk on water!

[Kenneth]

I'm with Saj in the main. People are saying his general play is good and that this is a fact that knowledgeable people can appreciate. Following his first few games when he was utter ****e, his general play has been average imo, I think El Zhar would have been an equally good option. His shooting is laughable. Can't write him off yet but can be honest about his performances to date.

[saj]

I'm with Saj in the main. People are saying his general play is good and that this is a fact that knowledgeable people can appreciate. Following his first few games when he was utter ****e, his general play has been average imo, I think El Zhar would have been an equally good option. His shooting is laughable. Can't write him off yet but can be honest about his performances to date.

Exactly. The fact is, he has offered us nothing. We could have easily make done with the players we had. Although I/we'll never know this, but I bet we still would be sitting joint top even if we hadn't signed Keane. To think, Chelsea signed Bosingwa for £16M - we could potentially have used the money spent on Keane to sign a player like Bosingwa. Now that would have been money well spent - and I'm not just saying that due to the form he has shown for Chelsea. Those who saw him play last year knew he'd be a hit in the premiership.

[bobbyfallon]

he prob isnt worth 20m but that was his market value at the time and he didnt make the price up himself.

rafa wanted/rates him so thats good enough for me.

he has done ok so far and will end up with 20 in all comps this year

[dww]

Exactly. The fact is, he has offered us nothing. We could have easily make done with the players we had. Although I/we'll never know this, but I bet we still would be sitting joint top even if we hadn't signed Keane. To think, Chelsea signed Bosingwa for £16M - we could potentially have used the money spent on Keane to sign a player like Bosingwa. Now that would have been money well spent - and I'm not just saying that due to the form he has shown for Chelsea. Those who saw him play last year knew he'd be a hit in the premiership.

I really don't think, irrelevant of how you rate Keane, that that statement holds water. Without Torres we have needed someone to lead the line. Keane has done that and Babel has shown nothing to indicate that he has learnt from his previous inability to hold the ball up and last a game when given a chance this season. The United game in particular was won on the back of a huge effort up front from Kuyt and Keane that prevented them from building from the back, none of our preexisting squad would have given us that except Torres who was injured.

I also find Operations argumentative tactic of effectively dismissing those who rate Keane as not being 'honest' is quite annoying. Is it not possible that people like me just hold a different opinion?

[RedReet]

Exactly. The fact is, he has offered us nothing. We could have easily make done with the players we had. Although I/we'll never know this, but I bet we still would be sitting joint top even if we hadn't signed Keane. To think, Chelsea signed Bosingwa for £16M - we could potentially have used the money spent on Keane to sign a player like Bosingwa. Now that would have been money well spent - and I'm not just saying that due to the form he has shown for Chelsea. Those who saw him play last year knew he'd be a hit in the premiership.

Possibly the worst post I’ve read in a while.