was / is keane worth 20 million?

[Sarb]

Torres hasnt been fit that much, we've still played it a few times though, Marseille at home, Chelsea away, Bolton away. And with Torres fit I think we'll revert to it in the future.

But then was Keane a waste of money as he won't get much game time will he?

[Chris]

But then was Keane a waste of money as he won't get much game time will he?

He's looking that way, yes.

[Sarb]

I don't want to have a go at Keane. I thought he'd be a good signing for us (but not at that price). However, I just don't get it. I know Torres is injured, but why when he is injured does Keane get moved up front? Why not bring in a like for like replacement for Torres and keep the formation/roles/positions the same. At least you can get settled. But moving players about isn't going to help them settle at a new club.

I do feel a little for the guy but at the end of the day, £20m is a lot of money and I can't see us getting anywhere near that back

[Kenneth]

It is amazing that the owners sanctioned this deal. They took a view on Barry and gave this one the nod. Very strange indeed.

[Kenneth]

I don't want to have a go at Keane. I thought he'd be a good signing for us (but not at that price). However, I just don't get it. I know Torres is injured, but why when he is injured does Keane get moved up front? Why not bring in a like for like replacement for Torres and keep the formation/roles/positions the same. At least you can get settled. But moving players about isn't going to help them settle at a new club.

I do feel a little for the guy but at the end of the day, £20m is a lot of money and I can't see us getting anywhere near that back

We wouldn't get half of it back. He's here to stay and Rafa has to play him because of the outlay. Said it before but given out financial situation and the feeling that the owners aren't 100% trusting of him anyway, I think that, to a large degree, the form of Keane will make or break Rafa's time in charge.

[Chris]

I do feel a little for the guy but at the end of the day, £20m is a lot of money and I can't see us getting anywhere near that back

Definitely not unfortunately, if we do sell it'll be because he's failed add to that he'll be what 29? If we do sell then its not a great bargaining position.

Think the only chance of us getting a decent fee would be Spurs needing a "messiah" to get them out of the relegation scrap but I doubt we'd give up on him in January.

[Hollowman]

when we play opposing teams we think, Berbatov, Drogba, Rooney, Ronaldo etc are danger men and could score against us. When we used to play Spurs who worried about Keane being able to score against us?

You mean apart from the four goals he scored against us for Spurs?

[dww]

You mean apart from the four goals he scored against us for Spurs?

Don't go bringing facts into the argument.

[Kenneth]

You mean apart from the four goals he scored against us for Spurs?

Ah, but did you see it coming?

[rage]

so keane scored a few goals in a mid table team. that doesn't demonstrate his class. most teams attacked against spurs and where else was he coventry?

teams defend against liverpool and keane looks out of his depth. sell him! sell him now. he'll never be good enough

[Woobus]

so keane scored a few goals in a mid table team. that doesn't demonstrate his class. most teams attacked against spurs and where else was he coventry?

teams defend against liverpool and keane looks out of his depth. sell him! sell him now. he'll never be good enough

Suppose United should cut there losses with Berbatov as well then?

[rage]

Suppose United should cut there losses with Berbatov as well then?

don't care about utd, but if i did i think they've got to many similar strikers in tevez and rooney; and in berbatov a player that doesn't fit in with their system. they can buy all the sweets in the sweet shops we can't afford to do the same.

i actually think berbatov is RVN replacement but RVN was better in the lazy goal hanging role

[Sarb]

You mean apart from the four goals he scored against us for Spurs?

Four goals in how many games? 2 goals were in one game last season no? When our defending was particularly ****.

My point actually was when we were about to face spurs, did the prospect of facing Robbie Keane fill you with fear?

[Sarb]

Suppose United should cut there losses with Berbatov as well then?

Berbatov may not have scored as many goals as would be desired, but he's contributing in his play and assists also. Quite frankly he's a much better player than Keane

We'd have been better off buying a player in the Arshavin mould

[Sarb]

Don't go bringing facts into the argument.

He didn't actually answer the question I asked. It might be fact but not directly relevant to the question asked. I asked if people saw him as a dangerman when we faced Spurs or not.