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    #46
    its pretty clear that:

    a. we should be frustrated at an opportunity missed.
    b. we should be relieved that we didnt lose ground to anyone.

    bottom line tho is that home to fulham should, be a home win for the title winners. what's more, we could and should have beaten them. that alone means its a lost opportunity for us.

    we should have beaten stoke at home too but that's all in the past. we are only where we are because this season we've beaten chelsea and man u. were the fixtures arranged in a different order, we may not be so easy to let the two home results against stoke and fulham slide.

    they were poor results there's no denying that. in many sports, comeptiors have to compete against themselves - to better personal best times, to win more matches etc etc. in this sense, us losing those 4 points is a failure on our part and the kind of thing that will cost us winning the league. no doubt about it.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
      I think people are missing the point here. At the start of the weekend, the best United could hope for was for the gap to remain the same - and it did.

      MY expectation was that they'd LOSE ground and they didnt.
      sorted.
      Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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        #48
        Originally posted by Operation View Post
        A fair point, but I think we are probably the 3rd best team in the league. As such, we need to make breakthroughs when we get the chance. While we are still level on points with Chelsea, I regard them as favourites. If we get a few points ahead, the dynamic could change as we put pressure on our rivals. This game was a major let down and more damaging for our title hopes than I think some are acknowledging.
        That is a very good point

        We will always be more prone to a slip up more than chelsea and the scummers
        _____________________________________

        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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          #49
          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          You were saying mate...?
          Bah using facts to back up your argument, this server has went downhill

          Utmost apology for besmirking your good name.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
            They didnt drop 3 points though

            On a serious note, Chelsea (to me, anyway) look less likely than us to drop silly points throughout the season, so the fact that they did today offered us a real chance and we blew it. The problem is that they're very strong and they have awesome strength in depth that will see them through the whole season, so we could really do with opening a gap on them in order to give ourselves some kind of margin for error in the 2nd half of the campaign.
            So why have the awesomely strong Chelsea only managed to win three of their 7 home games so far this season then? From where I'm sitting the two points they dropped at home to hopeless Newcastle on Saturday was a worse result than our dropping points to Fulham, as bad as that was, as they're a lot stronger than Newcastle.

            Why are Cheslea any less likely to keep dropping points at home as the season progresses?

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              #51
              Originally posted by magicalbarnes View Post
              Bottom line all of the top 3 would settle for a point at Villa Park, yet none of them would settle for a point at home to Fulham.

              Weather you like it or not ManU were the winners this weekend.
              So by your logic if we beat Newcastle at home we'll be winners again, as both Man U and Chelsea have failed to beat them at home? Presumably equilibrium will be restored, or have I misunderstood you?

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                #52
                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                I think people are missing the point here. At the start of the weekend, the best United could hope for was for the gap to remain the same - and it did.

                The expectation was that they'd LOSE ground and they didnt.
                Here on planet Earth the best United could have hoped for at the start of the weekend was to reduce the gap. If the gap continues to stay the same, they're out of the title race already

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                  Here on planet Earth the best United could have hoped for at the start of the weekend was to reduce the gap. If the gap continues to stay the same, they're out of the title race already
                  cant have that - i think its fair to say arsenal are out of it but with the quality they have they are by no means out of it.

                  wish they were like but their not ... yet ..
                  "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                  "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                    Here on planet Earth the best United could have hoped for at the start of the weekend was to reduce the gap. If the gap continues to stay the same, they're out of the title race already

                    Not yet. However a few bad results over their next 10 games will do it. We have a good chance but we need to stay strong because Chelsea have a lot of options. That's why the Scum need to step it up now.
                    Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by red g View Post
                      That is a very good point

                      We will always be more prone to a slip up more than chelsea and the scummers
                      So what you're saying is we can't afford slip up's because we're more prone to slip-ups?

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Woobus View Post
                        Bah using facts to back up your argument, this server has went downhill

                        Utmost apology for besmirking your good name.
                        I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                        Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                        Now all my lies are proved untrue
                        And I must face the men I slew.
                        What tale shall serve me here among
                        Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Woobus View Post
                          Bah using facts to back up your argument, this server has went downhill

                          Utmost apology for besmirking your good name.
                          My name's never been good

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                            So why have the awesomely strong Chelsea only managed to win three of their 7 home games so far this season then? From where I'm sitting the two points they dropped at home to hopeless Newcastle on Saturday was a worse result than our dropping points to Fulham, as bad as that was, as they're a lot stronger than Newcastle.

                            Why are Cheslea any less likely to keep dropping points at home as the season progresses?
                            Because the vast majority of recent evidence suggests that they have better strength in depth and are probably still better than us.

                            Unless of course, you want to forget the fact that they've finished comfortably above us every single year for god knows how long, now...
                            Last edited by Craig_H; 24-11-08, 03:57 PM.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                              Here on planet Earth the best United could have hoped for at the start of the weekend was to reduce the gap. If the gap continues to stay the same, they're out of the title race already
                              Did i make it sound more complicated than it was?

                              EVERYONE and their dog would've had us and Chelsea down as home bankers. Therefore, BEFORE Saturday, United would've been totally convinced that we'd win, so bearing that in mind, the best they could have done would've been to keep the gap the same, by winning at Villa. I didnt say they want the gap to be the same for the rest of the season, i was talking about this weekend's games alone.

                              It's not that cryptic, is it?

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                                Because the vast majority of recent evidence suggests that they have better strength in depth and are probably still better than us.

                                Unless of course, you want to forget the fact that they've finished comfortably above us every single year for god knows how long, now...
                                **** it... your right.

                                Sorry guys Craig has convinced me to give up. Wave the white flag as such cos overcoming the odds never happens in sport








                                Just kidding. **** you DJ you sad prick, we are going to win the league.
                                Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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