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    #46
    Liverpool top, but for how long?
    Phil McNulty - Sport Online chief football writer 2 Dec 08, 07:30 AM Rafael Benitez preferred to see his glass as half-full as Liverpool hit the Premier League summit on a wave of Anfield indifference.

    Liverpool achieved the draw needed against West Ham to overhaul Chelsea at the top of the table - but this was two points lost rather than one gained and a combination of jeers and disappointment at the final whistle reflected the mood.

    Benitez stated that Liverpool's fans will study the league table on Tuesday and be happy with their position as leaders in what promises to be the tightest title race in years.

    But you would have needed an industrial-sized microscope to detect any signs of happiness around a freezing Anfield after another goalless let-down..

    Benitez is right to talk up Liverpool's current position. There is never a bad time to go top of the table.

    He can even use the time-served argument that the omens are good when Liverpool are in pole position without hitting a consistent sequence of good form this season - a straw clutched at by many leaving Anfield after the final whistle.

    Indeed, it is hard to mount any critical case against a team that looks down on all others in the league.

    But I have rarely seen or heard Anfield less excited by an ascent to the top of the table. Liverpool's fans will know standards must be raised (and Fernando Torres must be fit) to maintain a consistent challenge to Chelsea, Manchester United and maybe Arsenal.

    And beneath Benitez's veneer of satisfaction there must be a realisation that Liverpool cannot afford too many more Anfield stalemates if they are to maintain their current position.

    Liverpool started as if they were about to sweep West Ham aside, but in the end - inspired by the superb goalkeeping of Robert Green - the Hammers joined Stoke City and Fulham in leaving Anfield with a point after a goalless draw.

    I asked Benitez about the frustrations of seeing Liverpool held, but he was in no mood to be downbeat, saying: "I think we deserved to win. We were trying to win from the beginning to the end and that is why they had chances on the counter-attack.

    "But we played much better than we have before. Some people will be disappointed, and we are disappointed, but we are top of the league and that means if we keep winning games the other teams have to win everything."

    True enough - except that they did not win this game and did not win their last home league game against Fulham either.



    Liverpool's blank meant there were plenty of disappointed souls inside Anfield, and right at the front of the queue was Robbie Keane.


    The £20.3m striker has had extra responsibilty thrust upon him in the absence of injured Fernando Torres and it did not sit easily on his shoulders against West Ham.

    Keane's march to the touchline - with a trademark pained expression accompanied by the familiar strains of sympathetic applause - has almost become an Anfield ritual.

    And so it was again on Monday as he saw his number go up for the 15th time this season.

    Keane cannot be faulted for effort, but he barely scratched the surface of this game, and he will not have felt any better when it was the youthful and virtually untried figure of David Ngog who was preferred as Liverpool went in search of the crucial breakthrough with 24 minutes left.

    Ryan Babel was the more obvious choice of substitute, but Benitez probably compounded Keane's misery with his choice of replacement.

    He is finding it a grim struggle to justify his over-inflated price tag - not his fault it should be stressed - and the expectations that come with wearing Liverpool's number seven shirt.

    Keane's class is proven, but he is just the latest to discover that playing for Liverpool carries a unique burden and for some it is almost too much.

    And if Keane needed confirmation, he only had to look to West Ham's Craig Bellamy, another who appeared to find the baggage that comes with playing for Liverpool too heavy for him.

    Bellamy was at his vibrant, busy best against his old club and came closest to breaking the deadlock with a 25-yard drive in the first half that clattered a post and rebounded to safety.

    Keane can still come good at Anfield - even Peter Beardsley took time to get into his stride - but there was some tell-tale frustration and impatience amid the support inside Anfield and he needs a change of fortune desperately.

    He has not been helped by being played in an unfamiliar role in his partnership with Torres, and his continuity has been broken by constant substitutions, but he will know the time is coming to justify his expensive fee.

    One man who will not arrive to threaten Keane is Michael Owen, with Benitez delivering an emphatic and almost unprompted rejection of suggestions he would return to Anfield in January.

    But is it actually such a bad idea when a predator in the Owen mould might have poached a goal against Fulham or West Ham?

    West Ham boss Gianfranco Zola talked up Liverpool's title chances before the game, so it was a chance to quiz him on whether he had changed his mind on studying fresh, first hand evidence.

    He was diplomacy personified as he said: "They are a team that will be there until the end. They are missing a very important player for them in Torres, a player who gives them something different.

    "I think this season is going to be a close title, and Liverpool will be involved."

    Liverpool's frustrated fans will hope he is right - but the reaction inside Anfield at the final whistle betrayed the doubts they still have about their side's title pedigree.

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      #47
      McNulty's a **** stirring prick with a nob lolly.
      "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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        #48
        I tell you what was counter productive: Keane's performance

        His lack of ability to stay onside was ridiculous. At one point he was the only outlet for Kuyt who was surrounded by about 3 players and he kept standing in an offside position and offered nothing all game and then has the audacity to have a strop when coming off. This guy is miles away from being Liverpool quality and we have wasted a lot of money

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          #49
          Originally posted by BFG View Post
          Pace I think mate.

          Without Torres we seriously lack that option (Rafa clearly doesn't see Babel as a CF)
          But why doesn't he see him as a CF?? He has pace, power, strength, a lethal shot... he is way more developed as a player then Ngog it makes no sense whatsoever.

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            #50
            Originally posted by BFG View Post
            McNulty's a **** stirring prick with a nob lolly.
            Not a fan then?

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              #51
              Originally posted by Reggie View Post
              Whatever girlfriend
              speak to the hand cause the face ain't listening!

              right - why did we sign N'gog! rafa seems to have a very distinct split from the first team and the ressies, and n'gog clearly wasn't signed for the ressies as he has never featured - ok i would happily hold my hands up if he had come here, struggled to settle but looked good in a few ressies games and he showed some promise - but thats not the case

              so he was signed as a 1st team squad player for £1.5m

              other youngsters we have signed have either gone into the ressies or have had something about them that makes you thing well fair enough this kid looks like he could do something, or with the likes of le tallec or pongolle, where courted round europe and noone could argue that they were considered some of the best kids around and ones for the fututre

              n'gog is just a random signing plucked out of nowhere for no apparent reason other than his name is a close to snoogy doogy as we could find
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                #52
                Originally posted by S-RED View Post
                Not a fan then?
                He makes me angry mate, I know he's only doing his job and all that (and he does it pretty well looking at the reaction he gets on his blog) but he just jumps on any negativity he can and quite often it's aimed at us.
                "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ronanm View Post
                  Saw Ngog came on for him - did he do anything?
                  The problem was the system & tactics we used last night. 1 up front at home against 2 centre backs & 2 defensive misdfielders is asking a lot of ANY striker. I can't understand how Rafa can be scared of teams like West Ham & Fulham. A lone striker in a must win home match is just baffling to me. In fact we should have played with 3 up top - our midfield & defence could easily have coped with that...
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by BFG View Post
                    He makes me angry mate, I know he's only doing his job and all that (and he does it pretty well looking at the reaction he gets on his blog) but he just jumps on any negativity he can and quite often it's aimed at us.
                    This article is pretty well balanced though. Can't deny it's true.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Matt View Post
                      He's a shadow of the player he was last season but I agree, knowing he's going to get hooked after an hour can't be doing his confidence any good.

                      He might not have been playing well but taking him off for N'gog, a player who clearly isn't yet anywhere near the level required, was counter-productive.

                      ok he may have been off the pace last night, but to bring Ngog on, who hasnt shown any sign that he is going to make a difference, was crazy.


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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Parm View Post

                        ok he may have been off the pace last night, but to bring Ngog on, who hasnt shown any sign that he is going to make a difference, was crazy.
                        Yep it was bizarre and another kick in the teeth for Babel, who has actually played and performed at a much higher level.

                        The lad can barely trap a football, let alone influence a game.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Parm View Post

                          ok he may have been off the pace last night, but to bring Ngog on, who hasnt shown any sign that he is going to make a difference, was crazy.
                          I am only guessing but could be N'gog has been showing a lot more in training than Babel in recent weeks.

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                            #58
                            A Spurs fan suggested this to a friend of mine:
                            Originally posted by Spurs Fan
                            If it means anything, Jol found a good solution two seasons ago. Keane needs to be the one who comes on, rather than the one who is substituted. Nothing motivates a striker more than coming on for the last half hour and having to prove his worth. I could always tell how fired up he was, after sitting on the bench for an hour, so that would be the advice I’d give Rafa if he asked me!
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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                              #59
                              Ain't going to happen, £20m on a player who only comes on for the last 20 mins or so. Expensive super sub and would probably get Rafa the sack, that's why Rafa has no choice but to continually start with the guy

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
                                Ain't going to happen, £20m on a player who only comes on for the last 20 mins or so. Expensive super sub and would probably get Rafa the sack, that's why Rafa has no choice but to continually start with the guy
                                We have to be looking at the team above individuals - the teams we are competing for the league with have big money players on the bench. The important thing is winning and it is always the currency the manager will be judged on at the end of the day. I don't think that anyone is suggesting that this would be the long term way of playing him but when he isn't performing all alternatives have to be looked into (and Rafa recently said that Keane had to get used to the idea that at big clubs £20m players are sometimes on the bench I believe).
                                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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