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    How would Rafa have fared as Chelsea manager (circa 2004)?

    A different question. Do people think Rafa could have won the Prem if he'd been Chelsea manager and we'd got Jose?

    Fair enough Jose had a lot of money to spend, but he did superbly to manage a squad with such big egos and who cost so much money. He seemed to pick the right team on most occasions, kept the core of the team pretty much the same and got results.

    First off, would Rafa have bought the right players, and would he have played the right tactics?

    Don't get me wrong, i used to find Jose infuriating when he was having digs at us, but the guy was a class manager and knew what was required to win the Prem

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    Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
    First off, would Rafa have bought the right players, and would he have played the right tactics?

    Don't get me wrong, i used to find Jose infuriating when he was having digs at us, but the guy was a class manager and knew what was required to win the Prem
    I wouldnt have said Maureen spent the money wisely, all of his best players were there before he took charge. By class do you mean a stinking, lying, cheating scumbag of a manager? Weird how class is defined now a days.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Sarb24 View Post
      A different question. Do people think Rafa could have won the Prem if he'd been Chelsea manager and we'd got Jose?

      Fair enough Jose had a lot of money to spend, but he did superbly to manage a squad with such big egos and who cost so much money. He seemed to pick the right team on most occasions, kept the core of the team pretty much the same and got results.

      First off, would Rafa have bought the right players, and would he have played the right tactics?

      Don't get me wrong, i used to find Jose infuriating when he was having digs at us, but the guy was a class manager and knew what was required to win the Prem
      I'm not sure that Jose bought many of the players who were key to his success at Chelsea (was Drogba his - if so I'll make an exception there and for Carvalho but Duff, Robben, Lampard, Cole and Cech were certainly Ranieri's work) - He was lucky that the Ranieri purchases were by and large excellent. I think Rafa would have won the league with that squad to be honest - players like Duff at the time are a perfect encapsulation of the type of efficient attacking player that would work well for him.

      I think Rafa's tactics by and large have been excellent. Even now we lack some of the players to execute them in some circumstances though. This is a reasonable criticism to some extent of Rafa. I think he has been hamstrung by the unpredictability of our financial resources but I also think that at times his transfer gambles (notably Keane and Babel) haven't come off - I wonder how much we miss Paco Herrera in terms of being someone whose judgment Rafa trusted and understood his way of playing.
      Last edited by dww; 18-12-08, 06:18 PM.
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        #4
        was looking for this in other thread.the players already at chelsea...would they have been utilised as well by rafa?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Woobus View Post
          I wouldnt have said Maureen spent the money wisely, all of his best players were there before he took charge. By class do you mean a stinking, lying, cheating scumbag of a manager? Weird how class is defined now a days.
          no im actually talking about his skills as a manager.he is a top class coach. lets not get into off field tactics or antics

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            #6
            No idea to be honest.

            We all know the strengths of each of them and I would say that Rafa is the better tactician but that Mourinho is the better at man-management.

            As Mourinho already spoke perfect English whe he came over I think he was off to an ideal start, it would be difficult to see Rafa having the same immidiate impact.

            It would also have depended on which players Benitez would have brought in, I could only guess at the players Bentez would sign in an ideal world.
            Forwards.......

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              #7
              What's the point of this thread?





              Oh yeah, I just realised, it's the same as all the others - is Rafa any good, etc.

              What a waste of time.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #8
                If Rafa had no budget like Mourinho and Ranieri then ofcourse he would have won just about everything possible. Easily

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                  #9
                  Rafa would have done as good at chelsea, Mourinho would have done worse here
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                  Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                  Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                    #10
                    ranieri had built a very good squad. mourinho inherited a far far better team. i think rafa would have been at least as successful there.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                      What's the point of this thread?





                      Oh yeah, I just realised, it's the same as all the others - is Rafa any good, etc.

                      What a waste of time.
                      Yeah an also can somebody do the research for my topic because I cant be arsed .. i just enjoy Rafa Bashing ... you know our manager who has us top of the Lg right now
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                        #12
                        Rafa would have won the league AND the champs league with Chelski.
                        We going to win #19th!!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by anfieldreds View Post
                          Rafa would have won the league AND the champs league with Chelski.
                          You cant just come out with that.
                          Cant predict anything in football.
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                            #14
                            Does anyone really care?

                            Who knows what would have happened.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by anfieldreds View Post
                              Rafa would have won the league AND the champs league with Chelski.
                              You forgot to add IMO

                              We don't know for sure ( as Marky correctly pointed out for you ), it's just your oppinion.

                              But I do agree with you ( imo )
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