Andy Gray

[corbylpfc]

First of all let me say "I can't stand andy gray,he's a cunt !" but at the start of the season he said "there's one man who can stop Liverpool from winning the league.,and that's RAFA BENITEZ" when I read this I thought, "what a bitter cunt" but I hate to say it, he could be right! His team Saturday was terrible! No playmaker in midfield????? Fcuk me! Lucas,benny,kuyt,are not Liverpool players! Don't argue any points to say they are! Lucas has no first touch,can't pass ,can't tackle what does he bring to the team? Benny is a poor mans Garcia, end of story ! Kuyt????????? He's no striker,he certinally is not a winger! No touch,no pace! I could go on and on , but I won't.keane must be wondering what he has to do to get a game when he sees these donkeys playing every week ! We don't play again till Monday , so keane and torres should have started and plenty of time to recover till Monday ! And now rafa will buy heskey and play him down the right just wait and see ! God please don't let that cunt andy gray be right ! Please !!!!!!!!!!! Pull the finger out rafa, play your best players every week like your biggest rivals do ! Don't spend 3 days in training worrying about ****in defending stokes set pieces, spend 3 days on hammering ****ing stoke! I hope and pray we win the league !

[kingfunk]

I Think andy gay was just sayin what everybody already knew, But we live in hope that rafa will adjust his ways of thinking to slightly more attacking football,
Who knows, Maybe he had an eye on the two bitter games coming up, if so its just another case of rafa geting his tactics wrong.

[ELNINO 9]

kenae or torres should have started against stoke and babel should have played . kuyt should be dropped for a few games

[babylon]

First of all let me say "I can't stand andy gray,he's a cunt !" but at the start of the season he said "there's one man who can stop Liverpool from winning the league.,and that's RAFA BENITEZ" when I read this I thought, "what a bitter cunt" but I hate to say it, he could be right! His team Saturday was terrible! No playmaker in midfield????? Fcuk me! Lucas,benny,kuyt,are not Liverpool players! Don't argue any points to say they are! Lucas has no first touch,can't pass ,can't tackle what does he bring to the team? Benny is a poor mans Garcia, end of story ! Kuyt????????? He's no striker,he certinally is not a winger! No touch,no pace! I could go on and on , but I won't.keane must be wondering what he has to do to get a game when he sees these donkeys playing every week ! We don't play again till Monday , so keane and torres should have started and plenty of time to recover till Monday ! And now rafa will buy heskey and play him down the right just wait and see ! God please don't let that cunt andy gray be right ! Please !!!!!!!!!!! Pull the finger out rafa, play your best players every week like your biggest rivals do ! Don't spend 3 days in training worrying about ****in defending stokes set pieces, spend 3 days on hammering ****ing stoke! I hope and pray we win the league !

You were right the first time round. The man is a bitter cunt.

He could equally say "there is only one man who can win Liverpool the title, Rafa Benitez."

But it would still be an equally bollocks statement to make. It's not about one man, it is about the team, although some people have more influence on the outcome than others.

If we do win the league, be ready to hear some bollocks like Rafa didn't win the League for Liverpool, Gerard did or Scum/Chavs poor form did (delete as appropriate). Sound bites from some fat cunt of a bitter pundit.

People who are having a pop right now must either think that Rafa is a either a clueless idiot, or he's doing something on purpose to damage our chances of the league title this season. I don't buy either of these.

The team we put out yesterday was plenty good enough to give Stoke an utter battering. It just so turned out that they were pretty good at packing their defence tighter than the nun's proverbial on the day.

Now I don't know why he didn't play Keane. I'm not party to the information RB has at his disposal. For all we know maybe Keane has some kind of niggly injury. Maybe they have had a bust up, maybe Keane's attitude on the training ground has been substandard of late, maybe he has just not been training well. Who knows? There are a million and one reasons that are I think are more plausible than a) Rafa being incompetent or b) Rafa wanting to damage our league campaign. I have a fair idea abotu why he didn't start with Torres.
I would treat him with kid gloves too right now.

Now I don't think that RB does not make mistakes, clearly he does as do all the top managers, but the way he is portrayed sometimes after a poor result is utter drivel (time, after time).

Top of the league
Beaten once this season
Beaten only once in a calendar year
Has finished with our highest ever points total of all time in second year at helm
FA cup
Champions league
2x Primera liga Titles
etc etc.

Rafa, you are a clueless idiot!!

[BG1973]

First of all let me say "I can't stand andy gray,he's a cunt !" but at the start of the season he said "there's one man who can stop Liverpool from winning the league.,and that's RAFA BENITEZ" when I read this I thought, "what a bitter cunt" but I hate to say it, he could be right! His team Saturday was terrible! No playmaker in midfield????? Fcuk me! Lucas,benny,kuyt,are not Liverpool players! Don't argue any points to say they are! Lucas has no first touch,can't pass ,can't tackle what does he bring to the team? Benny is a poor mans Garcia, end of story ! Kuyt????????? He's no striker,he certinally is not a winger! No touch,no pace! I could go on and on , but I won't.keane must be wondering what he has to do to get a game when he sees these donkeys playing every week ! We don't play again till Monday , so keane and torres should have started and plenty of time to recover till Monday ! And now rafa will buy heskey and play him down the right just wait and see ! God please don't let that cunt andy gray be right ! Please !!!!!!!!!!! Pull the finger out rafa, play your best players every week like your biggest rivals do ! Don't spend 3 days in training worrying about ****in defending stokes set pieces, spend 3 days on hammering ****ing stoke! I hope and pray we win the league !

zzzzzz.. it was virtually identical to the team that hammered newcastle.

the only playmaker we have is alonso who was injured. If you think Gerrard is a playmaker you're wrong.

Torres on from the start? You can't think of a reason why that might not be a good idea?

Why oh why do people feel the need to post this ****?

Do you want rafa out?

[corbylpfc]

zzzzzz.. it was virtually identical to the team that hammered newcastle.

the only playmaker we have is alonso who was injured. If you think Gerrard is a playmaker you're wrong.

Torres on from the start? You can't think of a reason why that might not be a good idea?

Why oh why do people feel the need to post this ****?

Do you want rafa out?

First of all its about opinions, so I can give mine, did I say I wanted rafa out ? Same team that beat Newcastle, that's no arguement, they are muck ! Gerrard is not. Playmaker?????? Are you high? He's our best midfielder! He's only good in the hole behind torres, no one else! He wasn't even in the fame Saturday ! Rafa ****ed up,admit it !

[babylon]

First of all its about opinions, so I can give mine, did I say I wanted rafa out ? Same team that beat Newcastle, that's no arguement, they are muck ! Gerrard is not. Playmaker?????? Are you high? He's our best midfielder! He's only good in the hole behind torres, no one else! He wasn't even in the fame Saturday ! Rafa ****ed up,admit it !

Do you actually know the reasons He chose the team he did to play in the positions he did? If you can tell me why Rafa made these decisions then I may or maynot accept your crude assessment :"Rafa ****ed up". If not then I would give Rafa the benefit of the doubt and put it down to a bad and hard day's work.

Enough of this reactionary bull**** everytime results don't go our way. It really is childish.

The players didn't play well enough to win. Simple as. Deal with it.

I'd rather have the points in the bag rather than have to play games in hand to catch up.

I firmly believe we are still in a better position than The Scum and way better than the Chavs.

[The_weatherman]

Do you actually know the reasons He chose the team he did to play in the positions he did? If you can tell me why Rafa made these decisions then I may or maynot accept your crude assessment :"Rafa ****ed up". If not then I would give Rafa the benefit of the doubt and put it down to a bad and hard day's work.

Enough of this reactionary bull**** everytime results don't go our way. It really is childish.

The players didn't play well enough to win. Simple as. Deal with it.

I'd rather have the points in the bag rather than have to play games in hand to catch up.

I firmly believe we are still in a better position than The Scum and way better than the Chavs.

Only just though, I think in hindsight it would have been better to play Gerrard with Mascher in midfield and Keane upfront with Kuyt.

[corbylpfc]

Do you actually know the reasons He chose the team he did to play in the positions he did? If you can tell me why Rafa made these decisions then I may or maynot accept your crude assessment :"Rafa ****ed up". If not then I would give Rafa the benefit of the doubt and put it down to a bad and hard day's work.

Enough of this reactionary bull**** everytime results don't go our way. It really is childish.

The players didn't play well enough to win. Simple as. Deal with it.

I'd rather have the points in the bag rather than have to play games in hand to catch up.

I firmly believe we are still in a better position than The Scum and way better than the Chavs.

the team he picked wasn't good enough because the players he has aren't good enough and I'm talking about Lucas and kuyt! Lucas wouldn't get into the stoke team ! Faye marked gerrard out of the game! I could See that, why couldn't rafa! He dosent make decisions quick enough! Kuyt couldn't hold the ball up so that made gerrard position impossible ! It didn't work for 45 minutes why not change it ? Why leave keane on the bench? If he's injured he wouldn't be warming up for aged or even be in the bench ! When's he's right I'll say well done and when's he's wrong il say he's wrong ! Deal with it !

[Craig_H]

zzzzzz.. it was virtually identical to the team that hammered newcastle.

You realise that Newcastle and Stoke are different teams, dont you?

[babylon]

the team he picked wasn't good enough because the players he has aren't good enough and I'm talking about Lucas and kuyt! Lucas wouldn't get into the stoke team ! Faye marked gerrard out of the game! I could See that, why couldn't rafa! He dosent make decisions quick enough! Kuyt couldn't hold the ball up so that made gerrard position impossible ! It didn't work for 45 minutes why not change it ? Why leave keane on the bench? If he's injured he wouldn't be warming up for aged or even be in the bench ! When's he's right I'll say well done and when's he's wrong il say he's wrong ! Deal with it !

The players he has aren't good enough? We'll have to agree to disagree there fella. I agree that Lucas didn't have a good game. Not as bad as some make out though. In the last 4 or five games he has played I think he has been excellent though. After having a tough run when the chips were down, he bounced back in the face of a mass of criticism. i know he'll do it again.

Kuyt was pretty good in the first half.

Please let's not get on this Kuyt/Lucas bashing whipping boy scapegoat thing again. It really is very unproductive. Especially if it extends to the terraces.

[corbylpfc]

The players he has aren't good enough? We'll have to agree to disagree there fella. I agree that Lucas didn't have a good game. Not as bad as some make out though. In the last 4 or five games he has played I think he has been excellent though. After having a tough run when the chips were down, he bounced back in the face of a mass of criticism. i know he'll do it again.

Kuyt was pretty good in the first half.

Please let's not get on this Kuyt/Lucas bashing whipping boy scapegoat thing again. It really is very unproductive. Especially if it extends to the terraces.

can you honestly say that eighter player would be a starter for any top 5 side?or would Lucas get into any top 6 teams squad? I never come out and bash players just when things don't go the way I like it to! Poor players are poor players! End of story !

[Subby]

Don't spend 3 days in training worrying about ****in defending stokes set pieces, spend 3 days on hammering ****ing stoke!!

amen

[babylon]

can you honestly say that eighter player would be a starter for any top 5 side?or would Lucas get into any top 6 teams squad? I never come out and bash players just when things don't go the way I like it to! Poor players are poor players! End of story !

He is currently a squad player. I think he would get into most top teams squad.

The reason he played on Saturday is because Xabi Alonso was out injured. Had he not been injured he would not have played.

Would Darren fletcher get into our starting 11? Would Mikel get into our starting 11? The question is irrelevant.

Should he have someone of the quality of Xavi or Pirlo or Fabregas as back up. For the good of the game, no! They should be on the pitch as much as friggin possible. The role that Lucas is playing is one that you mature into. He is being groomed. It is exceptionally rare for someone to play that game from an early age like Fabregas.

[babylon]

can you honestly say that eighter player would be a starter for any top 5 side?or would Lucas get into any top 6 teams squad? I never come out and bash players just when things don't go the way I like it to! Poor players are poor players! End of story !

By the way, what is an eighter player?