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    #1

    players fitness

    thought i would start a thread relating to player fitness.

    i want to know why they cant play 3 games in quick succession ??

    i can understand sami who is a bit older than the rest being rested but thats about it really.

    i think if the players were asked they would tell you that after they win a game they are raring to go for the next game and fitness wouldnt even cross their minds.

    does it dent their confidence to go out and play well only to be dropped/ rested for the next one? as a striker it would have to be a yes wouldn't it?

    most of the team are early to mid 20's and you would have to say finely tuned athletes in their prime.

    resting players - carling cup - fa cup - champions league when qualification is certain. there is plenty of time in there to rest them for **** sakes.

    what im trying to say is start the game with the strongest team every single time in the league. i can understand being cautious against the biggest teams, fair enough. against the ****e teams home and away pracrice battering them in training. who gives a **** if they score, score more than them.

    its 38 games a year barring injuries and suspensions go out to win and win well in cases. if we get 3-0 up then take the stars off if needs be ffs.

    and before any of you smart ****ers start - you know what i mean
    "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

    "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."
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    I agree that players should never complain about playing two or three times a week but like you say, at this level most are finely tuned athletes so any tiredness could be a disadvantage if a player lines up against someone who hasn't been involved in a match for a week.

    The body also has to be allowed to recover properly between games otherwise players will become more succeptable to injury.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Matt View Post
      I agree that players should never complain about playing two or three times a week but like you say, at this level most are finely tuned athletes so any tiredness could be a disadvantage if a player lines up against someone who hasn't been involved in a match for a week.

      The body also has to be allowed to recover properly between games otherwise players will become more succeptable to injury.


      I'm sure they're all capabale of playing 2/3 games a week but as Matt said even a 5% dip in performances can have an effect at the highest level.
      A humble guy with healthy desire.

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        #4
        This sort of thing is a science these days. Managers have access to huge datasets describing the relationship between the number of games played, the duration of the play, the intensity, the recovery time, injury, performance level etc. etc. It's not anecdotal anymore. Rotation, substitution...it's all done for reasons that won't be apparent without a laptop.

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          #5
          Thing is, you can have a player with high performance levels (little bits of brilliance) but low coverage or distance run (and vice versa). You have this data and then it's up to you how you want to analyse it and select your players.
          Last edited by Maxiedge; 14-01-09, 07:55 AM.

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            #6
            doesnt seem to be harming villa this season.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Matt View Post
              I agree that players should never complain about playing two or three times a week but like you say, at this level most are finely tuned athletes so any tiredness could be a disadvantage if a player lines up against someone who hasn't been involved in a match for a week.

              The body also has to be allowed to recover properly between games otherwise players will become more succeptable to injury.


              Agree totally pal.
              "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
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                #8
                Originally posted by Elvis View Post
                This sort of thing is a science these days. Managers have access to huge datasets describing the relationship between the number of games played, the duration of the play, the intensity, the recovery time, injury, performance level etc. etc. It's not anecdotal anymore. Rotation, substitution...it's all done for reasons that won't be apparent without a laptop.
                I've got a laptop and can tell you that the reasons for Rafa's substitutions often aren't apparent

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                  #9
                  villa - we're only half way through.

                  we - and rafa - have a record of finishing the season strongly so its about remaining in peak fitness for every game.

                  fergie rotates more since rafa joined us and he's not done badly out of it has he.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by barnes10 View Post
                    villa - we're only half way through.

                    we - and rafa - have a record of finishing the season strongly so its about remaining in peak fitness for every game.

                    fergie rotates more since rafa joined us and he's not done badly out of it has he.
                    Three points very well made.

                    Easy to judge and make comments when we are half way through a season. Having said that I do think we need to find our best team and then just rest the odd couple every game.

                    Trouble is Rafa doesn't seem to know what his best formation, never mind best starting XI. Maybe alot of it is the cause of the poor form of Robbie Keane.
                    Forwards.......

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                      #11
                      I think you have to look at the mental fitness too. Some people just love to play football and their brain is wired 24/7 but some others may be mentally tired and therefore not in the right state despite being physically ready.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by red g View Post
                        doesnt seem to be harming villa this season.

                        Not at the moment mate, but there's still a way to go and their performances will drop as time goes on and they'll become more susceptible to injury. Although, they do have a very young side.
                        President of the Ban Smileys Society

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                          #13
                          you may have had a point last season but we are playing our strongest team in nearly every match. The core players are always in the 11 if fit.

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