How much power do you give a manager?

[badpiggy]

a clear budget and total say over who comes and goes i think.

[ukfootballfan101]

The manager should be told what the budget is and should decide which players he wants to spend the money on BUT before bidding for a player he should tell the board/chief exec why he wants the player, how he'll fit into the team etc.

[Tee]

a clear budget and total say over who comes and goes i think.

Has to be. Without this your position as a Manager is already compromised.

[rezaeos]

A good manager should have the ultimate say in who he wants to sign, finances permitting.

[iceman23]

Fair enough if people choose the first option but what if Rafa wanted to swap Keane for Heskey this transfer window. Should the club just accept it since it his choice who he signs for any amount?

[iceman23]

Also, there was talk of Rafa wanting to do his own negotiations with agents / clubs. Surely this opens up a whole new can of worms? I am not saying Rafa is definitely going to have dodgy deals but there definitely is a chance, isn't there?

[redlancer]

as the manager is the one that gets the sack, blame for failure he should have total say re players and who to bring in.
The board should say how much money is available and between them they can work out a stratergy off which players are possible and if anyone needs to be sold. Likewise the manager should tell the board what role the player is going to play and where he would fit int he wage structure.

The manager should see the player from a footballing point of view to sell the club to the player and also confirm they are the player he wants.

As for contracts and price this shouldn't be the managers job, they should be consulted to how much he is willing to spend out of his budget and if the price goes too high wether the player is worth going to that level.

I want a manager to train, pick and motivate players - not sort out thier T&C's and price.

For one thing if you go to your manager to put you in for a pay rise and he comes back saying they knocked it back - you go thanks for trying.
If your manager decides re pay rise and your T&Cs and the bloke next you is on a better deal and he wont change yours it going to effect your relationship.

[Resu]

as the manager is the one that gets the sack, blame for failure he should have total say re players and who to bring in.
The board should say how much money is available and between them they can work out a stratergy off which players are possible and if anyone needs to be sold. Likewise the manager should tell the board what role the player is going to play and where he would fit int he wage structure.

The manager should see the player from a footballing point of view to sell the club to the player and also confirm they are the player he wants.

As for contracts and price this shouldn't be the managers job, they should be consulted to how much he is willing to spend out of his budget and if the price goes too high wether the player is worth going to that level.

I want a manager to train, pick and motivate players - not sort out thier T&C's and price.

For one thing if you go to your manager to put you in for a pay rise and he comes back saying they knocked it back - you go thanks for trying.
If your manager decides re pay rise and your T&Cs and the bloke next you is on a better deal and he wont change yours it going to effect your relationship.

[Woobus]

Also, there was talk of Rafa wanting to do his own negotiations with agents / clubs. Surely this opens up a whole new can of worms? I am not saying Rafa is definitely going to have dodgy deals but there definitely is a chance, isn't there?

Talk or rumour? I cant remember Rafa coming out and saying that or anyone else from the club.
By the sounds of Rafa he wants to have control over who he signs and for it not to be left to Parry. Fair enough and what all managers should have.

[dww]

as the manager is the one that gets the sack, blame for failure he should have total say re players and who to bring in.
The board should say how much money is available and between them they can work out a stratergy off which players are possible and if anyone needs to be sold. Likewise the manager should tell the board what role the player is going to play and where he would fit int he wage structure.

The manager should see the player from a footballing point of view to sell the club to the player and also confirm they are the player he wants.

As for contracts and price this shouldn't be the managers job, they should be consulted to how much he is willing to spend out of his budget and if the price goes too high wether the player is worth going to that level.

I want a manager to train, pick and motivate players - not sort out thier T&C's and price.

For one thing if you go to your manager to put you in for a pay rise and he comes back saying they knocked it back - you go thanks for trying.
If your manager decides re pay rise and your T&Cs and the bloke next you is on a better deal and he wont change yours it going to effect your relationship.

I think broadly speaking that is exactly how i feel. I think the key though is to have good communication between football and finance division in the club. No one benefits from Rafa worrying about the most tax efficient way to pay a transfer fee but the team/manager equally need to know how one transfer might affect another and in a world of complicated deals I don't think a this is your budget go spend it approach would be the most effective.

[redlancer]

I think broadly speaking that is exactly how i feel. I think the key though is to have good communication between football and finance division in the club. No one benefits from Rafa worrying about the most tax efficient way to pay a transfer fee but the team/manager equally need to know how one transfer might affect another and in a world of complicated deals I don't think a this is your budget go spend it approach would be the most effective.

problem might be does Rafa worry about tax efficiency because he wants too.

[dww]

problem might be does Rafa worry about tax efficiency because he wants too.

Quite possibly but I think he would be willing to compromise some of his control freakery if the system was efficient and gave him greater freedom to do football related things. Look at the compromises that he has actually made while here and it seems viable that we could sort out a system that he was happy with. the keys for me are trust and communication and i think we have lacked that recently.

[Darkon]

as the manager is the one that gets the sack, blame for failure he should have total say re players and who to bring in.
The board should say how much money is available and between them they can work out a stratergy off which players are possible and if anyone needs to be sold. Likewise the manager should tell the board what role the player is going to play and where he would fit int he wage structure.

The manager should see the player from a footballing point of view to sell the club to the player and also confirm they are the player he wants.

As for contracts and price this shouldn't be the managers job, they should be consulted to how much he is willing to spend out of his budget and if the price goes too high wether the player is worth going to that level.

I want a manager to train, pick and motivate players - not sort out thier T&C's and price.

For one thing if you go to your manager to put you in for a pay rise and he comes back saying they knocked it back - you go thanks for trying.
If your manager decides re pay rise and your T&Cs and the bloke next you is on a better deal and he wont change yours it going to effect your relationship.

It is about having a balance and good working relationship between the manager and however handles the economics.

[bobbyfallon]

theres 20m do what you like with it. **** it up and its on your head