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    Our defence

    is the worst defence in the league.

    No team concedes so many goals from so little possession from the opposition.

    No defence concedes the amount of goals we do from set pieces.

    No team is so uncomfortable defending when they enjoy so much breathing space when you compare them to West Brom or Newcastle.

    Food for thought.
    Last edited by JohnDoe; 08-02-09, 03:01 PM.

    #2
    Damn, that goals conceded column must have a typo in it then???

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      #3
      Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
      is the worst defence in the league.

      No team concedes so many goals from so little possession from the opposition.

      No defence concedes the amount of goals we do from set pieces.

      No team is so uncomfortable defending when they enjoy so much breathing space when you compare them to West Brom or Newcastle.

      Food for thought.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
        Damn, that goals conceded column must have a typo in it then???
        When you compare it to how much time the opposition gets to actually ATTACK US, it paints a very different picture.

        We concede a goal every two or three attacks. It's mental.

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          #5
          Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
          When you compare it to how much time the opposition gets to actually ATTACK US, it paints a very different picture.

          We concede a goal every two or three attacks. It's mental.
          We concede less than most teams

          We have concede 4 set piece goals in the league all season.

          You have put a very warped twist on it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
            is the worst defence in the league.

            No team concedes so many goals from so little possession from the opposition.

            No defence concedes the amount of goals we do from set pieces.

            No team is so uncomfortable defending when they enjoy so much breathing space when you compare them to West Brom or Newcastle.

            Food for thought.
            No team comes back like that with such regularity. I think the other teams are learning to counter the zonal system - oh well, we'll just have to keep scoring one more goal than the opposition

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              We concede less than most teams

              We have concede 4 set piece goals in the league all season.

              You have put a very warped twist on it.
              I'll ask you this.

              How many attacks did Wigan create at Anfield to score a goal?

              About one, barely.

              How many attacks did Everton create to score a goal at Anfield?

              About two or three.

              How many attacks did Pompey have in which they've scored two goals?

              Hmm.... A couple, and some set pieces.

              It's ridiculous how many goals we concede when you compare it to how much time the teams against us actually possess the ball.

              We should be shutting up shop completely with our domination of games.

              I can continue the examples... Hull at home, Spurs away, Wigan at home.

              It's not a coincidence. These are games we've completely dominated yet couldn't keep a clean sheet with barely any threats from the opposition.
              Last edited by JohnDoe; 07-02-09, 08:41 PM.

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                #8
                My, you must be bitterly disappointed that we won if you come on here to post this instead?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                  My, you must be bitterly disappointed that we won if you come on here to post this instead?
                  No, I'm absolutely delighted but I'm furious at our defending. We completely dominated the game and it should have been 4-0. But I've been saying that too many times this season only to find us conceding many goals against the run of play.

                  You know what? Change "Worst" to "softest", and you might agree.

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                    #10
                    Lets not let things get tetchy eh?

                    We do seem to be conceding some soft goals, but I think that's what happens against teams you dominate but don't look like scoring against. We have a lot of possession in games, but rarely cut sides apart, the more confident a team gets with 10 behind the ball the more they feel they can snick one, and the more nervous our players get that they might.

                    Also, if you're not conceding from open play a set piece is usually the opponents best chance anyway.
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                    Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                      No, I'm absolutely delighted but I'm furious at our defending. We completely dominated the game and it should have been 4-0. But I've been saying that too many times this season only to find us conceding many goals against the run of play.

                      You know what? Change "Worst" to "softest", and you might agree.
                      Softest i'd even disagree with...it think it's more a case that a lot of the time attacks get broken up before they've even had a chance to begin, so it's only the best of attacks that get through, and therefore create the breakthroughs...just another way of looking at it??

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                        #12
                        Anyone who thinks we should play 3-5-2 a lot more should look at that match again. Fair enough we didn't have Alonso, Gerrard and Torres playing together today however the team just didn't know how to move around and how to control both that prick David Nugent or Peter Crouch.

                        From set pieces, I fear the worst. We are always conceding, something needs to be looked at. Against Everton, this past week, we were concentrating hard because we knew the threat. The players just need to have their thinking caps on otherwise these goals will undoubtedly cost us.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                          Softest i'd even disagree with...it think it's more a case that a lot of the time attacks get broken up before they've even had a chance to begin, so it's only the best of attacks that get through, and therefore create the breakthroughs...just another way of looking at it??
                          But that still means that our defence is very poor at stopping play and completely depend on our hardworking midfield to protect them. That makes it a liability.

                          I'm not blaming individual players, I just think there is a collective problem in our defence. It's soft.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                            Lets not let things get tetchy eh?

                            We do seem to be conceding some soft goals, but I think that's what happens against teams you dominate but don't look like scoring against. We have a lot of possession in games, but rarely cut sides apart, the more confident a team gets with 10 behind the ball the more they feel they can snick one, and the more nervous our players get that they might.

                            Also, if you're not conceding from open play a set piece is usually the opponents best chance anyway.

                            Is the right answer.

                            A humble guy with healthy desire.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                              Lets not let things get tetchy eh?

                              We do seem to be conceding some soft goals, but I think that's what happens against teams you dominate but don't look like scoring against. We have a lot of possession in games, but rarely cut sides apart, the more confident a team gets with 10 behind the ball the more they feel they can snick one, and the more nervous our players get that they might.

                              Also, if you're not conceding from open play a set piece is usually the opponents best chance anyway.
                              Still, we should be getting our bread and butter which is set pieces, sorted out and correct. Either the positions aren't correct, there is a lack of confidence or no communication between the players. A lot of this defence would gobble in-swinging crosses and set pieces were pretty much a non-virtue for the opposition to get a goal. Not that this is a witch hunt but ever since Skrtel has come back into the side, we do look a bit dodgy from set pieces.

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