Benitez's signings

[pondus]

All this talk about Benitez not having the money at his disposal in order to sustain a title challenge. Lets look at the facts:

2004/05 £26m spent - Alonso, Garcia, Josemi, Morientes, Carson

2005/06 £25.9m spent - Reina, Sissoko, Crouch, Agger

2006/07 £26.2m spent - Bellamy, Paletta, Pennant, Kuyt, Arbeloa

2007/08 £68.3m spent - Lucas, Leto, Torres, Benayoun, Babel, Insua, Skrtel, Mascherano

2008/09 £39m spent - Dossena, Cavalieri, N'Gog, Keane, Riera.

Grand total of £158.4m

An average spend of £37m a season.

All facts and figures courtesy of LFC History

You can't even add five figures?

If you wanted to prove your point, you should increase the number, not the other way around...

Yeah, I know your average spend is correct

[Joe King]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

[pondus]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

[Rich]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

Where the hell is the logic to that?!

[murder_inc]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

Now your moving the goal posts Joe.

[Pablo]

Shambles

[Fierce]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

[BFG]

2004/05 £11m Sold: Owen, Murphy

2005/06 £14m Sold: Diouf, Diarra, Nunez, Baros

2006/07 £14.45m Sold: Morientes, Traore, Kromkamp, Kirkland, Warnock, Pongolle

2007/08 £30.4m Sold: Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Paletta, Sissoko

2008/09 £36.5m Sold: Riise, Crouch, Guthrie, Carson, Keane

Total £106.35m

In true terms of selling players, (because he didn't sign Owen, Murphy, Riise, Cisse, Traore, Kirkland, Baros, Diouf, Diarra, Pongolle) Benitez's selling of players only total up to £61.2m

Errrrm excuse me for not being a silly little boy but if he's had to sell them to fund his buys then there's no logic for them being excluded from such a comparison. Silly boy.

So going off your stats Rafa's spent a tad over £79mil at an average of around £15mil per year. ****ing hell I'm convinced, give him a new deal. Thanks Joe.

[Joe King]

I think thats a fair statement - lets compare with and without Houlliers players

With Houllier's mistakes:

£185.4 - £106.35 = £79.05m

On average £15m a season.

Purely Benitez's signings:

£185.4 - £61.2 = £124.2m

On average £24.84m a season.

[Fierce]

Best. Thread. Ever.

[Joe King]

These types of threads with transfer figures are always fundamentally flawed, yours even more than normal!

How is it flawed? Total them up yourself with the same players I have used.

[BFG]

[squaddie]

But mate scum can spend £30M at the drop of a hat Berbatov,Ferdinand and Rooney etc.
I can't see how you reckon Rafa has had such amazing backing.
Their the ones who we compete with 9 times out of 10 if you finish above utd you win the league.
We need serious funds.

30 odd million per season may sound like alot but feck all compared to the to the mancs etc........ We are the paupers of the top 4.

[pondus]

I think thats a fair statement - lets compare with and without Houlliers players

With Houllier's mistakes:

£185.4 - £106.35 = £79.05m

On average £15m a season.

Purely Benitez's signings:

£185.4 - £61.2 = £124.2m

On average £24.84m a season.

Should we also exclude income from tickets from the budget as Rafa didn't build the stadium?

Or from merchandise because Rafa didn't manufacture them?

What kind of deluded logic is that?

Yeah, great thread...

[Guest]

I think thats a fair statement - lets compare with and without Houlliers players

With Houllier's mistakes:

£185.4 - £106.35 = £79.05m

On average £15m a season.

Purely Benitez's signings:

£185.4 - £61.2 = £124.2m

On average £24.84m a season.

This defies normal rules of logic. So if he didn't sell Houllier's buys, he would have had a net spent of £24.8m a season and still be left with a number of unsellable duds on our books, meaning by your own distorted logic, these players would still have got a value today ... players like Murphy, Owen, Diao etc ... all worth a pot of gold in today's market.