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    #31
    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
    His problem was that like Benitez most his signings come from his home country. However whilst Spain is a strong league that Rafa can tap in too, France was and still is a poor league - meaning that even the most successfull of players could not guarantee success in the English league.

    There was one club in France who tended to take all the best talent (Lyon) and yet we never bought a player of them. We signed players with no experience of being tested in Europes top competitions and as such were unable to see the real quality of the players we signed.
    The same problem Wenger had at the time?
    3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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      #32
      Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
      The same problem Wenger had at the time?
      OUCH!

      (respect)
      dave of mutilation

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        #33
        Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
        The same problem Wenger had at the time?
        Wenger played it safe though.

        He signed youngsters at little risk (Anelka), players from his time at Monaco (Grimandi, Petit, Henry) and players already aboad in a top league (Viera and Henry again).

        Houllier had been coach of France and created their great youth teams that went on to rule the world. He should have been signing those players who he knew about. Not gambled on players like Diouf and Diao.
        Forwards.......

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          #34
          oh god, diao. the horror.
          dave of mutilation

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            #35
            Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
            Wenger played it safe though.

            He signed youngsters at little risk (Anelka), players from his time at Monaco (Grimandi, Petit, Henry) and players already aboad in a top league (Viera and Henry again).

            Houllier had been coach of France and created their great youth teams that went on to rule the world. He should have been signing those players who he knew about. Not gambled on players like Diouf and Diao.
            I was rather excited about Diouf and Cheyrou when they signed. I remember seeing Cheyrou in Europe a few years before he signed for us and thinking he looked an absolute world beater. Pre Season against Lazio he was phenomenal as well.

            Just goes to show, you never know.
            A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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              #36
              did win us that game at chelsea....
              dave of mutilation

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                #37
                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                Wenger played it safe though.

                He signed youngsters at little risk (Anelka), players from his time at Monaco (Grimandi, Petit, Henry) and players already aboad in a top league (Viera and Henry again).

                Houllier had been coach of France and created their great youth teams that went on to rule the world. He should have been signing those players who he knew about. Not gambled on players like Diouf and Diao.
                Like Diomede?
                3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by rowanad View Post
                  I was rather excited about Diouf and Cheyrou when they signed. I remember seeing Cheyrou in Europe a few years before he signed for us and thinking he looked an absolute world beater. Pre Season against Lazio he was phenomenal as well.

                  Just goes to show, you never know.
                  Houllier wrecked his confidence by calling him the "New Zidane". This type of praise raises the bar and expectations meaning the crowd got on his back fairly early. He never recovered from that.
                  Forwards.......

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
                    the doctor who fan says yes! and he's well smart, you know!

                    on a side note, i'm rather ashamed to admit that while i was hunting for my avatar i found out that christopher ryan played the sontaran commander and i felt kinda bad.
                    hope you mean dr who as red hot isnt a he
                    Originally posted by fah-q
                    Didn't someone once see Philip Schofield ****ting into a crisp packet?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                      Like Diomede?
                      when i saw him drive to anfield in a big mercedes suv tank, i wanted to hit him. that's daylight robbery.
                      dave of mutilation

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by meffin View Post
                        hope you mean dr who as red hot isnt a he
                        yes, i meant the doctor.

                        not sure about that harkness guy, though....
                        dave of mutilation

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                          Like Diomede?
                          He was an exceptionally young talented footballer when he first came through. But by the time we signed him he was already on the way down. In 1998 he started the three group games in the world cup France won which showed how good he was. But after 1998 he never played for France again. Showing if you like that by the time we signed him in 2000 he was already passed his best - daft as it sounds some players peak too early.

                          So whilst Wenger signed someone like Robert Pires who was proving himself by breaking into the France squad, Houllier was taking gambles on a player who had slipped way of the pace.

                          And if you're no longer the player you were in France, I find it unlikely that you will suddenly reproduce it at a higher level at Liverpool.
                          Forwards.......

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Reggie View Post
                            Benayoun?

                            I was very sad to see Luis go. Wasn't his departure due to family reasons? In any event Benny has done a great job in Luis' footsteps. No point in doubling up.

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