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    Lessons can be learnt to turn United blue

    Lessons can be learnt to turn United blue

    Five days before Halloween 2008 and it wasn't so much a scare as a downright shock that flowed through football as Chelsea's incredible and unparalleled record of 86 home games unbeaten was left in tatters by Xabi Alonso's deflected strike, which gave Liverpool three points and left Stamford Bridge more resembling of a Wendy House than a fortress.

    The last time Chelsea's home defences had been breached was on October 23rd 2004 and few were expecting the record to crumble four years and three days later when Rafael Benitez's 'cautious' Liverpool side visited the Bridge to record a historic victory. However, what Liverpool achieved that day goes way beyond the three league points that they took back to Merseyside with them. For four long years, it had become almost legislative that Chelsea do not lose at Stamford Bridge and when the Reds ended this run, some may have excused the Blues hierarchy had they picked up their telephones and dialled 999 to report a crime.

    Less than five months later, Senor Benitez was at it once again, this time in more emphatic circumstances. Unlike at Stamford Bridge where the Spaniard engineered a subtle piece of pick-pocketing, on this occasion Old Trafford witnessed what can only be described as a complete ransacking, where the visitors not only walked away with all three points, but also stuffed their pockets full with the dignity and pride of their hosts. Unlike Chelsea, United were not on a four year unbeaten home record, however in recent weeks the media would have led you to believe that Ferguson's men were untouchable, invincible and merrily strolling their way to an unprecedented quintuple. Because it's just that easy.

    What Rafael Benitez and his brilliantly organised side highlighted at Old Trafford was more than just their own ability to put high quality opponents to the sword, when they click into gear. Just as they had at Stamford Bridge on October 26th 2008, Liverpool have now opened the eyes of the rest of the footballing world and exposed the myth that was beginning to evolve around Manchester United, courtesy of the highly sensationalistic and 'fairytale seeking' media. Contrary to many exaggerated views, United are not invincible. Their defence was not the design model on which Fort Knox was based. Their midfield is not impossible to overpower. Wayne Rooney is not the new Pele and Ronaldo is not the latest incarnation of Superman.

    When Liverpool shattered Chelsea's incredible record, it proved not to be an isolated case. Just 35 days later, Arsenal went to Stamford Bridge and repeated the trick. West Ham went to Stamford Bridge and had the temerity to take the lead. The Hammers couldn't hold on and ended up claiming a solitary point, but were it not for Carlton Cole's lack of a decisive finish in the latter minutes, the East Londoners would have joined the Anfield and Emirates bandwagon. It wasn't to be just a trio however. Hull City took an impressive point from 'fortress' Stamford Bridge as recently as February. Stoke led away at Chelsea until two minutes from time when they were unluckily dealt a quick fire double to taste defeat. Heck, even lowly Southend ventured into trendy West London for an FA Cup tie and took a highly impressive draw back to Essex with them. Wigan Athletic found themselves level going into stoppage time before a very late home winner shattered their day.

    It's amazing what can happen when others show you the way. Liverpool showed everyone the way when they visited Stamford Bridge early this season and what followed was a remarkable home run which saw Chelsea drop a total of nine league points at a crumbling Bridge which looked badly in need of re-enforcement.

    Rafa Benitez will be hoping their demolition of Manchester United on Saturday will pave the way for others, as the Merseysiders seek to end their barren spell without the league title, which is now dangerously close to reaching the two-decade mark. In more danger for England's most decorated club, is their record of eighteen league titles, which will be equalled if Manchester United retain the crown this season. However, after seeing what followed Liverpool's win at Chelsea, the Reds will be hoping a similar bout of uncertainty clouds Old Trafford.

    Hear something often enough and it becomes easy to believe it but for those who dismissed a different tune, the message is now loud and clear. Messers Benitez, Torres and Gerrard are beating the drum. It is now up to others to hear it, starting with Fulham on Saturday. Over to you, Mr Hodgson.

    #2
    Don't think you'd write something like that Craig, it's not realistic at all.

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      #3
      Let us hope so, but the flipside is if teams really have a go at Utd then they will be vulnerable to the counter attack and the Scum thrive on that.

      Also, there is no other team in the world as well organised and disciplined as us so I am not sure we can expect too much from others. Fingers crossed though.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        #4
        Good read
        'The tide is very much in our court now.'

        Keegan

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          #5
          i know you are a realist but hope you have learnt to be maybe a bit more positive after the negativity you brought to the build up
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            #6
            The list of games including lots that Chelsea actually won is a bit odd. Their were lots of simliar games during their unbeaten run.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Operation View Post
              The list of games including lots that Chelsea actually won is a bit odd. Their were lots of simliar games during their unbeaten run.
              Our home form has probably cost us the title and when you consider that Chelseas is worse that tells you all you need to know.
              Forwards.......

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                #8
                Roy Hodgson :-"We'll work very hard, but the Liverpools and the Chelseas who are chasing Manchester United can't really expect that much of Fulham and think we'll beat Manchester United for them."


                What sort of a thing is that to say before your team plays.

                No backbone,another easy 3 points gift wrapped for the mancs.

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                  #9
                  I dont think Fulham will completely bend over this time. They may well lose, but i dont think it'll be a walkover.

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                    #10
                    lets hope not

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                      #11
                      Unfortunately i think mancs will win 2-0, Traveler head and Rent Boy. Hope im wrong though.

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                        #12
                        i think roy is playing mind games.

                        thats what its come to after that spanking on saturday. fulham playing mind games with man utd. LMFAO.

                        Fulham are tactically astute and hard working. they will be fired up for this exactly because they got spanked last time they played. zamora and johnson are clever players and whilst clearly not fit to lace Stevie and Nando's boots, they'll be able to cause some problems.

                        I think this game will be a draw.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PoolG View Post
                          Roy Hodgson :-"We'll work very hard, but the Liverpools and the Chelseas who are chasing Manchester United can't really expect that much of Fulham and think we'll beat Manchester United for them."


                          What sort of a thing is that to say before your team plays.

                          No backbone,another easy 3 points gift wrapped for the mancs.

                          Heard that quote yesterday and couldn't believe it, on RTE on Sat when reviewing our game and Utd's upcoming fixtures he made that point about Hodgson, he goes on about how great Ferguason and Utd are and is beaten befroe kick off.

                          Hopefully Danny Murphy will point out to Hodgson how beatable they are and have a real go at them, exactly the same as they should to us and everyone else.

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                            #14
                            Here's another good article from a chelsea fan praising Rafa.

                            Thanks a million, Rafa Benítez
                            WARNING: the following article is going to express alarmingly positive sentiments about a figure previously mocked by this very author. Rafa Benítez, we salute you.

                            I used to think that Rafa Benítez tactical nous was over-rated. My opinion was that he was great at adapting his side to cancel out the opposition, stifle them, annul their strong points, and then hope for a lucky break. It`s astonishing how often that seemed to work.

                            After all, that`s what Liverpool did to Chelsea in October when Rafa`s lot came to town and ended Chelsea`s magnificent unbeaten run at Stamford Bridge. If any one match sealed Phil Scolari`s fate, it was that one: Chelsea had been playing some electrifying football up until then, with fast-paced wing play, fullbacks bombing forward, and some nifty short-passes. Rafa`s ploy was to block the supply lines from the flanks, and to get into Jon Obi Mikel`s face to ensure that he couldn`t redistribute the ball from defence to attack. It wasn`t pretty, but by Zola it was effective.

                            The problem for Chelsea was that this ploy was seen by any number of other teams, Roma for starters. The secret to undoing Chelsea was out there, Liverpool had deployed it. It didn`t help that, having been found out, Scolari didn`t have an alternative tactic. Chelsea were undone by teams using Rafa`s tactics.

                            Fast forward to last week, when Liverpool first dismantled Real Madrid and then Manchester United. Rafa`s post-match conference on Saturday was astonishing. "We knew their defence had weaknesses," Benítez said. "They are strong in defence but that's because they have plenty of possession elsewhere. They have a lot of quality in attack but that is the main thing that they have. When they don't have the ball and you move the ball quickly and play behind their defenders you know you can beat them."

                            The Spaniard went on. "I do think they have weaknesses. We knew they are really good at playing between the lines with penetrating passes so we needed to stop those passes and put their midfielders under pressure every time they received the ball. After that we had to play simple passes and go forward quickly because they [United] are an offensive team and always high up the pitch."

                            In the analysis of the Guardian, ManU are so committed to attacking they can leave themselves vulnerable to fast, incisive breaks, particularly when the ball is played behind Vidic, whose weakness is his speed on the turn. "That was one of the ideas," Rafa confirmed. "We knew with [Torres's] movement we could create problems for their defenders."

                            Wow. What was that about? Why had Rafa been so explicit about his tactic that had so comprehensively undone Manchester United? As in his dissection of Chelsea, he had found the formula to destroy Manchester United. However, with Liverpool chasing Manchester United, and relying on the Champions to drop further points so that Liverpool can sneak up, he`s broadcasting loud and clear how to beat Manchester United. He is inviting opposition managers to follow the Rafa formula. You too can beat the Mancs, here`s how, he is shouting to the world, and particularly the managers of the 10 Premier League clubs still to face United.

                            And that is why, contrary to what the ManU faithful have been saying until lunchtime Saturday, Rafa Benítez is not only tactically more astute than Siralex, he has the advantage in the mind games. Earlier this year, Rafa read out an astonishing rant about Fergus, about how he influences the referees and the game`s authorities, not to mention his constant whining about the fixture list. It was painful to hear … except for one point: every single thing that Rafa said was totally true. ManU lapped it all up: on Saturday stalls were selling mock Rafa T-shirts that described the Liverpool manager as "Deranged! Ludicrous! Insane!" One banner at Old Trafford said "Rafa`s cracking up. The front cover of the Mancs`s Red News fanzine recently had Rafa superimposed into a straitjacket. The irony of all this couldn`t be funnier.

                            Liverpool used as motivation for their clinical demolition of Real Madrid firstly the Madrid President`s remarks that Madrid would piss all over Madrid. President Boluda predicted that Madrid would win 3-0 at the Bernabeu and 2-1 at Anfield. He certainly got that right. Rafa also used the comments from Madrid coach Juande Ramos that Rafa`s Liverpool was boring. And on the day of the match last week, Fernando Torres held up the front page of 'Marca`, the Real Madrid court circular, which had, splashed across the front page "This is Anfield … so what".

                            These are powerful motivation tools. Did Liverpool use, in the run-up to Saturday`s game, the banal but ill-advised comments by Wayne Rooney about how he used to hate Liverpool and that that hasn`t changed? Or was it the continued mockery of Benítez by ManU? Or was it the confident prediction by various ManU players that Liverpool would be knocked out of the title race by Saturday afternoon. Let`s just say that the net result was that, whilst United were jaded and complacent, Liverpool were stoked up.

                            Compare and contrast this calculated reply with that of Siralex. Firstly there was the fact that Fergus didn`t speak to Sky news before and after the game. The reason for this? A protest against a 12:45 kick-off time. Yes, readers, that`s a kick-off time that allowed maximum revenues (via Sky) for the club. That`s a kick-off time that had been suggested by the police, and discussed with both clubs. And agreed by both clubs. Apparently it hadn`t been to the liking of Siralex, who boycotted Sky.

                            Siralex already boycotts discussions with the BBC. The reason? It`s lost in the mists of time, based on a documentary on the BBC that questioned Fergus` son`s transfer dealings. A key element was when one BBC journalist dared to ask a critical question to the Knight of the Realm about Juan Sebastian Veron. Juan Sebastian Veron, that`s the midfielder who was purchased from Lazio for £30 million. To the question that Veron had been involved in an argument with his team-mates, Siralex blew a gasket: "People are always going on about f**king Veron. You tell me, what's wrong with Veron?", he fumed. "What's this thing about fights and all the rest of this sh*t? It's absolute nonsense, you know it's nonsense. Absolute lies. On you go. I'm no f**king talking to you. He's a f**king great player. Yous are f**king idiots." 4 months later Siralex flogged 'f**king great player` Veron to Chelsea at £15 million.

                            2 years ago, Siralex launched an astonishing attack on the BBC, saying that the national broadcaster is "arrogant beyond belief". Read that again: Fergus the bogeyman accuses the BBC of being not only arrogant but "arrogant beyond belief". You can`t make this kind of thing up.

                            Actually, I`ll tell you what you really can`t make up: after seeing his side hammered on home soil 1-4, demolished from A to Z, outmanoeuvred and tactically belittled, the best that Professor Mind Games could come up with was to claim that United had been a "better team". "It's a hard one to take as I thought we were the better team," he said. "We have to accept that it was a bad day in terms of the goals we lost, but I cannot fault the display." No really.

                            As Chelsea fans, we have every interest in hoping that ManU slip up. We didn`t manage to do that ourselves, but Liverpool have just helped make that possible. It would be boring if ManU go on to win a third successive League, let alone any of the other elements of their quintuple. It would also suggest that English football is not actually that competitive. Thanks to Liverpool, maybe an element of competitiveness has been reintroduced. That`s good news for Chelsea. For the moment, Chelsea and Liverpool are allies in hoping that ManU slip up again.

                            Fergus, if I were you I`d be looking nervously over your shoulder because (forget about José) you have met your tactical and psychological match in Rafa. And for the teams facing ManU in the coming matches, read Benítez`s comments and watch the DVD of the Liverpool game to see how ManU can be beaten. We owe it to football to push ManU and open up the League. Thanks for that Rafa.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by barnes10 View Post
                              i think roy is playing mind games.

                              thats what its come to after that spanking on saturday. fulham playing mind games with man utd. LMFAO.

                              Fulham are tactically astute and hard working. they will be fired up for this exactly because they got spanked last time they played. zamora and johnson are clever players and whilst clearly not fit to lace Stevie and Nando's boots, they'll be able to cause some problems.

                              I think this game will be a draw.
                              Well, we have to play them after Villa, so hopefully they'll get complacent after beating the scum and we stuff them
                              Well, here we are in a room with two manky hookers and a racist dwarf. I think I'm heading home.

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