It is still very very much on!

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I'm very tempted to do that filter thing again, the word "pal" into "fellow poster whose opinion I respect and am not being at all condescending to".

In fact, I just tried, but the forum said no

I'll come up with something shorter if pushed.

'Disagreeable cunt'?

[BFG]

How about "valued peer" or " my sweet lover"?

I can't see how that can be improved upon.

[Elvoz]

Different how? What exactly are you saying is acceptable?

To a mere pleb like me it reads that it’s fine to finish second, so long as we come from behind, but it’s a sackable offence to reach the summit before you finish second?

Thanks in advance Pal.

can i create a similar scenario then

imagine if you had married a beautiful woman and she left you
that is actually different than seeing the beauty then not marrying her and instead marrying someone nice but not beautiful
see ?

and im not sure again i will bow to you that i have asked for rafa to be sacked - i may of asked should he though

imo we were in a winning posi - in fact blatantly we were - yet if we dont win the league then imo we have blown the league

[Elvoz]

in fact if the scum lose the league from the position they are in - they will feel similar to how i do/will
we had it in our hands and may , may finish 2nd or ffs 3rd

that would be very disappointing . i can just about live with being beatedn by a great team - but the scum arent

[Kenneth]

can i create a similar scenario then

imagine if you had married a beautiful woman and she left you
that is actually different than seeing the beauty then not marrying her and instead marrying someone nice but not beautiful
see ?

and im not sure again i will bow to you that i have asked for rafa to be sacked - i may of asked should he though

imo we were in a winning posi - in fact blatantly we were - yet if we dont win the league then imo we have blown the league

Sorry, but your analogy is ****, my sweet lover. Of course it's more disappointing not to win when we have lead, but that is not a good reason for being more critical of the manager because we lead rather than came from behind.

[Elvoz]

Sorry, but your analogy is ****, my sweet lover. Of course it's more disappointing not to win when we have lead, but that is not a good reason for being more critical of the manager because we lead rather than came from behind.

so your ok with blowing a 5/6 point lead that could/should of been 8 points ?
thats fine
but i also think thats where "some" of our fans go wrong
they "settle" for things far too easily
its about opinions of course

[Neil Young]

Sorry, but your analogy is ****, my sweet lover. Of course it's more disappointing not to win when we have lead, but that is not a good reason for being more critical of the manager because we lead rather than came from behind.

[Neil Young]

so your ok with blowing a 5/6 point lead that could/should of been 8 points ?
thats fine
but i also think thats where "some" of our fans go wrong
they "settle" for things far too easily
its about opinions of course

Elvoz, seriously, you're talking ****. Operation is right. Just because it feels worse it doesn't mean it is worse.

[Kenneth]

so your ok with blowing a 5/6 point lead that could/should of been 8 points ?
thats fine
but i also think thats where "some" of our fans go wrong
they "settle" for things far too easily
its about opinions of course

I am only questioning the notion that if we had never reached the top of the table but had put a strong finish together, this would alter the view of how suitable Rafa is to be manager.

[Elvoz]

Elvoz, seriously, you're talking ****. Operation is right. Just because it feels worse it doesn't mean it is worse.

ok

I am only questioning the notion that if we had never reached the top of the table but had put a strong finish together, this would alter the view of how suitable Rafa is to be manager.

i can only talk of how i feel pal
im not asking you to agree with me otherwise you,d be as clever as me

[red g]

so your ok with blowing a 5/6 point lead that could/should of been 8 points ?
thats fine
but i also think thats where "some" of our fans go wrong
they "settle" for things far too easily
its about opinions of course

its not a case of setlling.....but its realism. realistically we all wanted a title push we have one. Yes we were 5pts ahead........but then Rafa got us into a strong position a couple of seasons ago and we blew that.

the fact is we dont have a strong enough squad to cope......and yes its gutting we blew a 5 point lead, but then didnt Scum go 13 games without conceding a goal? so we hardly blew it......Scum got themselves back into position.

[Elvoz]

its not a case of setlling.....but its realism. realistically we all wanted a title push we have one. Yes we were 5pts ahead........but then Rafa got us into a strong position a couple of seasons ago and we blew that.

the fact is we dont have a strong enough squad to cope......and yes its gutting we blew a 5 point lead, but then didnt Scum go 13 games without conceding a goal? so we hardly blew it......Scum got themselves back into position.

we blew it fella
im not writing imo after everything - its obvious its my opinion
you may be happy finishing 2nd or 3rd

im not
that all i can say

[Chrono]

the fact is we dont have a strong enough squad to cope......and yes its gutting we blew a 5 point lead, but then didnt Scum go 13 games without conceding a goal? so we hardly blew it......Scum got themselves back into position.

We always find excuses, not enough money, squad not strong enough, etc, etc. We have the largest squad in the league with some of the most talented players and always have a large amount to spend. The fact that I believe we were 7 points clear (when they were in Japan) means that there was a failure on the part of the team or manager.

It might still happen but if it doesn't we only have ourselves to blame.

[Elvoz]

We always find excuses, not enough money, squad not strong enough, etc, etc. We have the largest squad in the league with some of the most talented players and always have a large amount to spend. The fact that I believe we were 7 points clear (when they were in Japan) means that there was a failure on the part of the team or manager.

It might still happen but if it doesn't we only have ourselves to blame.

all the mancs i know say my favourite expression is "next year its coming home"

[Neil Young]

The fact that I believe we were 7 points clear (when they were in Japan) means that there was a failure on the part of the team or manager.

...who are also to be credited with getting us into that position in the first place. I just don't understand why that doesn't 'cancel out' the criticism for being overhauled when in the lead.

I understand it feels like we should have won it from there but the only fact is our final league placing - the ups and downs over the course of the season simply add up to where the team finishes. It seems a reasonable position to argue that second (or third) isn't good enough over the course of the season but that's a completely different debate.