LFC Fitness

[badpiggy]

any possibility that our current defensive frailities are down to tiredness? the tempo that we play at, especially without the ball, must be seriously difficult to maintain in a league as fast as the premier.

[Scratch]

Doesn't excuse yesterdays goal tho, cos Insua was atfault for that one and he's not exactly played many games.

I'd guess that Arbeloa and Carra are probably starting to feel the strain, with the number of games (especially Carragher) they have played, so it might play a part.

[Matt]

I think it's a possibility but we had a week between the Chelsea and Arsenal games and then Hull was 4 days after which is longer than we usually get.

Arbeloa and Carragher definitely have a case for being tired but I can't see them getting a rest now.

[Elvoz]

any possibility that our current defensive frailities are down to tiredness? the tempo that we play at, especially without the ball, must be seriously difficult to maintain in a league as fast as the premier.

training 2 hours tops a day - are you serious ? tired

[Nicey]

any possibility that our current defensive frailities are down to tiredness? the tempo that we play at, especially without the ball, must be seriously difficult to maintain in a league as fast as the premier.

If anything I would suggest our fitness is part of our strengths .. and one of the reasons we have scored more late goals than anyone else

[Elvoz]

If anything I would suggest our fitness is part of our strengths .. and one of the reasons we have scored more late goals than anyone else

bang on

[Darth Marty]

If anything I would suggest our fitness is part of our strengths .. and one of the reasons we have scored more late goals than anyone else

Must admit that when I saw the thread title thats what i thought it would be about.

[dww]

It seems quite possible that Carragher is suffering some form of mental tiredness. He has played a lot of games and we have been under pressure in a none of our current team has had before and he often seems to be thinking for the entire defense. It doesn't look like physical tiredness is a problem with our players at the minute.

I do however think that the 'they only do 2 hours training a day so they can't be tired' argument is a false one though. It isn't about being tired in the sense of short term exhaustion but the sort of longer term fatigue that prevents optimum performance.

[Joe King]

I would think the players should deserve a day off once a week to spend time with their families after what has been quite an exhausting season, physically and emotionally. It could work for us.

[Nick77]

Doesn't excuse yesterdays goal tho, cos Insua was atfault for that one and he's not exactly played many games.

I disagree, it was Arbeloa & Skrtel's fault. They fact the BOTH tried to stop the 1 Hull player left Carra to mark 2 players by himself. It wasn't necessary for them to both go & close the player down, 1 of them could have stayed with Carra to help out in the middle.
Or it could be argued that either Mascher or Alonso should have tracked back with Geovanni who is a midfielder, not a striker...

[Baldemort]

I disagree, it was Arbeloa & Skrtel's fault. They fact the BOTH tried to stop the 1 Hull player left Carra to mark 2 players by himself. It wasn't necessary for them to both go & close the player down, 1 of them could have stayed with Carra to help out in the middle.
Or it could be argued that either Mascher or Alonso should have tracked back with Geovanni who is a midfielder, not a striker...

Dunno mate. It looked to me as though Insua gave up running.

[Scratch]

Insua was dawdling along behind Geo...he could see the man, it's not like he appeared from over his shoulder and took him by surprise or anything, and if you can see a player unmarked, you don't just stand around watching, you track him, get goal side...basic stuff.

[Baldemort]

Insua was dawdling along behind Geo...he could see the man, it's not like he appeared from over his shoulder and took him by surprise or anything, and if you can see a player unmarked, you don't just stand around watching, you track him, get goal side...basic stuff.

That's what pissed me off most about it. He looked lazy.

[Nick77]

Insua was dawdling along behind Geo...he could see the man, it's not like he appeared from over his shoulder and took him by surprise or anything, and if you can see a player unmarked, you don't just stand around watching, you track him, get goal side...basic stuff.

Ok, I would agree. But I also think the others are to blame too...

[BrianF80]

From what I've seen Mascherano has been pushed into a more progressive role, so there's less protection against strikers who drop-off and midfielders who make late runs. Hence our defenders are having to cope with one on ones where they usually have someone helping them out.