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    We don't need a revolution!

    Reading the press ... one can see dozens of players linked with lfc.

    Seriously we don't need 4 or 5 players. We need just 2 great players, a winger and a striker. We don't need to sell Alonso to be replaced with Barry!!!

    We need the fringe players to be removed but not Alonso, my player of the year! A David Silva and a Tevez/Forlan or another great striker will be more enough.


    This team is on the brink of being Champions!

    #2
    In terms of the first XI I agree. I do think however we need to look at 3 or four players. We don't have any competition at right back, no top quality back up for Torres, no consistent option to add width on the right and ideally I think you need to pick from four CMs (with Gerrard now effectively an attacker I would argue we normally pick two from three).
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #3
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      In terms of the first XI I agree. I do think however we need to look at 3 or four players. We don't have any competition at right back, no top quality back up for Torres, no consistent option to add width on the right and ideally I think you need to pick from four CMs (with Gerrard now effectively an attacker I would argue we normally pick two from three).
      We dont have loads of cash, and we need to strengthen the squad due to backup players not being good enough to cover for first teamers.

      Surely the combination of not much cash, and the idea of buying 4 players, simply means we'll be buying players who arent good enough to cover for first teamers.

      How will this solve anything?

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        #4
        Originally posted by reds123 View Post
        Reading the press ... one can see dozens of players linked with lfc.

        Seriously we don't need 4 or 5 players. We need just 2 great players, a winger and a striker. We don't need to sell Alonso to be replaced with Barry!!!

        We need the fringe players to be removed but not Alonso, my player of the year! A David Silva and a Tevez/Forlan or another great striker will be more enough.


        This team is on the brink of being Champions!
        Think you have hit the nail on the head there really, as Man City have proved cash doesn't equal success. The team as they are now are performing at the top level and i think we just need to bring in some players who can add something, or back up players that we depend on like gerrard and torres so that if they do get injured or cant play, we have similar class we can bring out to fill in.

        Our performance in the league this season has been some of the best liverpool football, certainly of my generation and i think we need to build on those foundations, not knock half of it down and start again.

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          #5
          My main Worry is the cover for Torres, we can cope without gerrard for a few games.

          Also El Zhar and N'gog arent good enough to be impact subs imo.
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            #6
            Originally posted by littlerob5 View Post
            Think you have hit the nail on the head there really, as Man City have proved cash doesn't equal success. The team as they are now are performing at the top level and i think we just need to bring in some players who can add something, or back up players that we depend on like gerrard and torres so that if they do get injured or cant play, we have similar class we can bring out to fill in.

            Our performance in the league this season has been some of the best liverpool football, certainly of my generation and i think we need to build on those foundations, not knock half of it down and start again.
            There's no such thing as backup players that can be depended upon like Gerrard and Torres. Such players arent backup players, they're world class footballers and first team regulars and, consequently, usually command fees to match.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              We dont have loads of cash, and we need to strengthen the squad due to backup players not being good enough to cover for first teamers.

              Surely the combination of not much cash, and the idea of buying 4 players, simply means we'll be buying players who arent good enough to cover for first teamers.

              How will this solve anything?
              Because our first team is already pretty strong. Does a right back have to cost that much - not really. I also tend to think that the right options would improve the squad more than the quality of the players individually. Riera has improved us a great deal despite not being 'world class'. Assuming we have a similar amount of money to last year I think with sales of Dossena & Babel we should be able to get four players.
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
              -- William Blake

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                #8
                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                We dont have loads of cash, and we need to strengthen the squad due to backup players not being good enough to cover for first teamers.

                Surely the combination of not much cash, and the idea of buying 4 players, simply means we'll be buying players who arent good enough to cover for first teamers.

                How will this solve anything?
                Well, switching into FM mode (as none of us really know the ins and outs of most of the transfer deals), I would have thought that there would be the usual c£20m kitty, plus whatever is raised by shipping out fringe players. So if we can get a few million for Dossena we'd have enough to sign Silva or similar for £15m and Barry for £7-8m, while still having two decent left backs in Aurelio and Insua. Then we'd need to sell to raise money for right-back cover and a striker to cover Torres, hopefully not through selling Alonso. Babel and Riera should raise enough to get some decent cover in these positions?

                Beyond that, I don't think we particularly need to sign anyone else.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dww View Post
                  Because our first team is already pretty strong. Does a right back have to cost that much - not really. I also tend to think that the right options would improve the squad more than the quality of the players individually. Riera has improved us a great deal despite not being 'world class'. Assuming we have a similar amount of money to last year I think with sales of Dossena & Babel we should be able to get four players.
                  In terms of a RB, the first name that comes to mind, is Glen Johnson. But he'd be expensive. I think that we'd struggle to find many backup players who are both good enough to step into the first team when needed, but are also good value for money. Plus, there's the desire to get english players too, with the CL restrictions, so that is likely to up the cost.

                  If we sign four players, we're looking at the £6m-£8m bracket and for me, players like that wont make the difference for us.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
                    Well, switching into FM mode (as none of us really know the ins and outs of most of the transfer deals), I would have thought that there would be the usual c£20m kitty, plus whatever is raised by shipping out fringe players. So if we can get a few million for Dossena we'd have enough to sign Silva or similar for £15m and Barry for £7-8m, while still having two decent left backs in Aurelio and Insua. Then we'd need to sell to raise money for right-back cover and a striker to cover Torres, hopefully not through selling Alonso. Babel and Riera should raise enough to get some decent cover in these positions?

                    Beyond that, I don't think we particularly need to sign anyone else.
                    My concern is about that kitty. I have a nasty feeling it'll be considerably less than £20m. From what i've heard, if it's half that, we'll be doing well. Hopefully that turns out to be incorrect.

                    If Silva is sold for £15m, i'd be pleasantly surprised. I'd keep Riera, because for me, selling him would mean needing a replacement, especially if Babel goes too.

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                      #11
                      We got Arbeloa for what £3.5m and Benayoun for £5m.

                      The alternative of not getting four and leaving obvious weaknesses in our squad seems no better to me. Obviously a balance has to be struck. I think unless we sign at least three players the chances are we will be no better off as a squad than we were this year - especially considering we are likely to sell at least two players.
                      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                      -- William Blake

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                        My concern is about that kitty. I have a nasty feeling it'll be considerably less than £20m. From what i've heard, if it's half that, we'll be doing well. Hopefully that turns out to be incorrect.

                        If Silva is sold for £15m, i'd be pleasantly surprised. I'd keep Riera, because for me, selling him would mean needing a replacement, especially if Babel goes too.


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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          We got Arbeloa for what £3.5m and Benayoun for £5m.

                          The alternative of not getting four and leaving obvious weaknesses in our squad seems no better to me. Obviously a balance has to be struck. I think unless we sign at least three players the chances are we will be no better off as a squad than we were this year - especially considering we are likely to sell at least two players.
                          Obviously, if we can find similar quality players at those kind of prices, i'd be delighted. I think those two were excellent signings but it's rare that players like them are so cheap. I guess it's down to the scouting system to find another Insua type of player.

                          I just think it'll be incredibly hard to buy a decent striker who can fill in for Torres, a top quality attacking midfielder/winger who can score goals AND then also another two decent players for backup. If we can do it, it'll be the best summer for a while.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                            My concern is about that kitty. I have a nasty feeling it'll be considerably less than £20m. From what i've heard, if it's half that, we'll be doing well. Hopefully that turns out to be incorrect.

                            If Silva is sold for £15m, i'd be pleasantly surprised. I'd keep Riera, because for me, selling him would mean needing a replacement, especially if Babel goes too.
                            I'd only sell Riera if Silva and Barry were signed first, and then only because he'd raise a few quid and he'd be unlikely to start most games. I think Babel is probably on his way out anyway, so between them I'd expect to raise around £15m?

                            Worrying if we've got £10m or less in the kitty to start with though. I'd read recent reports as saying that we had our usual kitty but would have to sell to buy our main targets. If we have to sell to buy anyone at all then we are in trouble. We need to be buying class to improve on what we already have, not just more and more squad players. And we certainly shouldn't be looking to sell Alonso to bring others in.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dww View Post
                              We got Arbeloa for what £3.5m and Benayoun for £5m.

                              The alternative of not getting four and leaving obvious weaknesses in our squad seems no better to me. Obviously a balance has to be struck. I think unless we sign at least three players the chances are we will be no better off as a squad than we were this year - especially considering we are likely to sell at least two players.
                              this is where Dossena maybe sacrificed......Babel and Dossena sold will bring in the best part of 15million

                              then that pranjic guy is only 6/7 million euros so he could be one of the back up players if we get another one for the right at similar.....

                              then spunk our actual budget on the one player similar to Van?persie or tevez that can play across all 3 positions well..... or Silva just not sure how well he could play the torres role
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                              Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                              Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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