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    Premier League revenues near £2bn
    By Bill Wilson
    Business reporter, BBC News


    The Premier League saw its revenues soar by 26% in the 2007/08 season to nearly £2bn ($3.15bn; 2.2bn euros), a report into football finances has said.

    The revenues of top-flight English sides were £1.93bn, up from £1.5bn a year earlier, Deloitte said.

    Despite the downturn, 11 of the 20 top league clubs made an operating profit in 2007/08, from eight a year before.

    But Premier League salary costs topped £1bn for the first time, and the clubs' total net debt was £3.1bn.


    PREMIER LEAGUE TEAMS WITH MOST DEBT 2007/08
    Chelsea - £711m
    Manchester Utd - £649m
    Arsenal - £318m
    Liverpool - £300m
    Newcastle Utd - £245m
    Figures are net debt at end of 2007/08 season

    Source: Deloitte

    Two-thirds of the debt was carried by the big four of Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal, but Dan Jones, the editor of Deloitte's Annual Review of Football Finance, said those clubs all had business plans "that they feel make sense".

    The strong revenue growth outstripped the ever-upwards salary growth, which boomed by 23% to £1.2bn, the biggest annual increase in absolute terms recorded by the Premier League.

    'Remarkable achievement'

    "In season 2007/08 the big change was the new broadcasting deal - most of the growth came from there, " Mr Jones told the BBC.

    The current three-year broadcasting deal - worth £1.7bn - began in August 2007.

    "In the season that has just finished [2008/09] we think the growth is going to be a little bit lower, but it is going to get clubs up to that magical £2bn mark - which is a remarkable achievement, an average of £100m a club in the Premier League."


    TOP PREMIER LEAGUE WAGE BILLS 2007/08
    Chelsea - £172.1m (£132.9m)
    Manchester Utd - £121.1m (£92.3m)
    Arsenal - £101.3m (£89.7m)
    Liverpool - £90.4m (£77.6m)
    Newcastle Utd - £74.6m (£56.7m)
    (2006/07 wages in brackets)

    Source: Deloitte

    In graphics: Compare European leagues

    But he warned that the approaching summer months would reveal the extent to which fans and sponsors were willing to match their previous levels of demand, with clubs having to closely examine their marketing and pricing strategies.

    "This summer will be critical for football clubs, it will be very interesting to see how the season ticket renewals go, how the corporate hospitality renewals go," said Mr Jones.

    "I think that is why we are seeing a lot of clubs freezing season ticket prices, reducing prices. They are very sensitive to the fans and their corporate sponsors and the problems they are facing."

    Click here to see the wages of the Big Five European leagues

    However, he said English football - at both Premier League and Football League level - was proving more resilient in the face of downturn than many other industries.

    Soaring wages

    The wages to turnover ratio in the Premier League dropped slightly to 62%, a small decline, but still close to the previous year's high of 63%.

    Wages paid by top-flight English sides grew by 23% from the previous season to £1.2bn.
    Arsenal's Andrey Arshavin (left) takes the ball off team mate Cesc Fabregas
    Clubs like Arsenal have benefited from the latest Premier League TV deal

    Sunderland saw its wage bill soar by 56% and Derby County by 51%. Chelsea once again had the highest wage bill, totalling £172.1m

    Premier League clubs increased commercial revenues to £447m, up by 12%, whereas matchday revenues grew more modestly, by 3%, to £554m.

    Meanwhile, revenues in the Championship increased by 2% to £226m in 2007/08, with total revenues of the total 72 Football League clubs exceeding £500m for the first time.


    FANCY THAT: 2007/08 SEASON FACTS
    Chelsea became the first club to report over £80m gross transfer spending in one season
    Championship clubs' total wage costs increased by £32m to £291m
    Total investment in English stadia and facilities was £187m
    Source: Deloitte

    However, despite revenue growth, improved profitability has remained elusive.

    "For many owners, Premier League clubs represent 'trophy assets' with the potential to deliver a long term return but which at best break even annually, rather then a cash cow delivering an ongoing 'dividend'," said Mr Jones.

    Indeed, of the total net debt of £3.1bn in the Premier League, a total of £1.2bn was in non-interest bearing "soft loans" from club owners.

    Tax contributions

    Mr Jones also pointed out that while footballer's wages often attracted headlines, the amount of cash the industry put into national coffers was often ignored.

    "One thing that does not draw much attention in the midst of all these huge numbers around football is the tax side of things," he said.


    PREMIER LEAGUE CLUBS WITH LOWEST STADIUM UTILISATION 2007/08
    Wigan Athletic - 73%
    Blackburn Rovers - 74.9%
    Bolton Wanderers - 80.7%
    Middlesbrough - 81%
    Sunderland - 82%
    Figure relates to average % of stadium filled for home games

    Source: Deloitte

    "So, in 2007/08 season we think the overall tax payment to the government from professional football in England was about £860m.

    "When the new top rate of tax comes in that will go up to £1bn."

    However, he said that despite reports of elaborate tax avoidance schemes around players wages, Deloitte was not aware of any being widely adopted by clubs.

    Limited growth

    As well as looking at the English Premier League and Football League the Deloitte report also studies Germany, France, Italy and Spain.

    Italy's Serie A was the fastest growing league in terms of revenue, thanks mainly to the change in clubs in the league, including the return of Juventus, in 2007/08.

    In joint second place after the Premier League, in terms of gross revenues, was Spain's La Liga and Germany's Bundesliga.

    The Bundesliga, France's Ligue 1, and the English Premier League have been boosted by having secured long-term broadcast deals which deliver significant proportions of total revenue.

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    #2
    It's a pretty bad situation all round but Newcastle are absolutely ****ed!

    Chelsea's wage bill was almost double ours in 2007. What do you reckon it is now? Plus Man City will be coming into the equation now too.
    Last edited by Ben_Itez; 04-06-09, 12:58 AM.
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      #3
      Another Leeds it would seem!!!! Ashley is some joke. We've got off lightly with G&H
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        #4
        Originally posted by Ben_Itez View Post
        It's a pretty bad situation all round but Newcastle are absolutely ****ed!
        i heard they had 7 players on over 70k a week with over 3years left on there contract each !!!

        thats a cool 500,000 a week for the next 3 years no wonder ashley want out quick sharpish!!!

        and 75 million to buy them out there contracts
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        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

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          #5
          I see United spend an extra 30 mill a year on wages than us and some fools still think we are on a level playing field as them.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Woobus View Post
            I see United spend an extra 30 mill a year on wages than us and some fools still think we are on a level playing field as them.
            Arsenal spend £10M more on wages than us and yet the rags will have you believe that Arsenal have a strict wage structure when it comes to contract negotiations.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Mono View Post
              Arsenal spend £10M more on wages than us and yet the rags will have you believe that Arsenal have a strict wage structure when it comes to contract negotiations.

              The difference has decreased year by year. A few years ago it was nearly £20mill difference. Wenger has actually spent more in wages, than us, than Rafa has had to spend on transfers. That is before you consider what Wenger has spent on transfers.

              Then you also see they are only £20mill more in debt than us and have the Emirates.



              Rafa really has done a remarkable job rebuilding us.
              Last edited by Flight; 04-06-09, 08:58 AM.

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                #8
                Is this right? £300 million in debt?

                I thought one of the stipulations when the Americans bought the club was that they weren't allowed to saddle the club with loans they used to buy the club?

                Didn't they form a separate company because of this - Kop Holdings or something and the loans were secured against their own assets, not the clubs?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Flight View Post
                  The difference has decreased year by year. A few years ago it was nearly £20mill difference. Wenger has actually spent more in wages, than us, than Rafa has had to spend on transfers. That is before you consider what Wenger has spent on transfers.

                  Then you also see they are only £20mill more in debt than us and have the Emirates.



                  Rafa really has done a remarkable job rebuilding us.
                  But their wages are a lower % of their revenue than our. They have round 50% but our ratio is around 55% - Chelsea are at around 80% I think - self sustainable in 2010
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Woobus View Post
                    I see United spend an extra 30 mill a year on wages than us and some fools still think we are on a level playing field as them.
                    Been saying it for years. Wage spend is the best guide of a squads strength (or at least it should be) and we are puching above our weight. That's the manager and the fact we don't sack them everytime we have a blip.

                    Originally posted by Mono View Post
                    Arsenal spend £10M more on wages than us and yet the rags will have you believe that Arsenal have a strict wage structure when it comes to contract negotiations.
                    Exactly. Wenger has had more time and spends more on wages to develop youngsters, problem is the lack of success by having a heap overpaid youngsters without proper leadership in the squad leads to a lack of success.


                    Personally I think Rafa has and is doing a excellant job building a balanced squad of a good age with a heap of leaders and this will allow us to keep us punching above our weight.
                    Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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                      #11
                      interesting to see that the German league is looking quite sustainable


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                        #12
                        Originally posted by red g View Post
                        i heard they had 7 players on over 70k a week with over 3years left on there contract each !!!

                        thats a cool 500,000 a week for the next 3 years no wonder ashley want out quick sharpish!!!

                        and 75 million to buy them out there contracts
                        Its a complete contrast to Middlesbrough and shows how differently the 2 clubs have been run. Newscastle pay stupid wages with no forward thinking. Middlesbrough have relegation clauses in all their players contracts so if they go down they automatically take a big pay cut or are sold.


                        Originally posted by Parm View Post
                        interesting to see that the German league is looking quite sustainable
                        The german league is going from strength to strength following the world cup, could be the number one league in europe in 10 years, they already have a higher average attendance than the prem...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ukfootballfan101 View Post
                          The german league is going from strength to strength following the world cup, could be the number one league in europe in 10 years, they already have a higher average attendance than the prem...
                          Not in a 1000 years will the German league become the number one league in europe.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Angry Dan View Post
                            Not in a 1000 years will the German league become the number one league in europe.
                            Haha! Maybe, maybe not!

                            They are currently ranked 5th in UEFA's co-efficient list. Their clubs have had a great season in Europe (Bayern got to the quarters in the champions league, 2 teams in the UEFA semis, one in the final) which I think moves them up into 4th, above France.

                            If they have a few more seasons like this (them doing very well and Italy doing badly), they could overtake Italy in the coefficient table and claim an extra champions league spot - top 3 leagues in europe get 4 teams, so many get 3 and then so many get 2 etc etc. If they get an extra champions league spot that would be huge...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ukfootballfan101 View Post
                              Haha! Maybe, maybe not!

                              They are currently ranked 5th in UEFA's co-efficient list. Their clubs have had a great season in Europe (Bayern got to the quarters in the champions league, 2 teams in the UEFA semis, one in the final) which I think moves them up into 4th, above France.

                              If they have a few more seasons like this (them doing very well and Italy doing badly), they could overtake Italy in the coefficient table and claim an extra champions league spot - top 3 leagues in europe get 4 teams, so many get 3 and then so many get 2 etc etc. If they get an extra champions league spot that would be huge...
                              Interesting, I hope they continue their upward curve, there are a couple of things that we should be able to take for granted in life:

                              Germans should be good at football.
                              Not the english.
                              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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