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October 1981 Bryan Robson West Bromwich Albion Manchester United £1,500,000
1984May 1984 Ray Wilkins Manchester United A.C. Milan £1,500,000
1986May 1986 Mark Hughes Manchester United Barcelona £2,300,000
1987June 1987 Ian Rush Liverpool Juventus £3,200,000
1989July 1989 Chris Waddle Tottenham Marseille £4,250,000
1991July 1991 David Platt Aston Villa Bari £5,500,000
1992June 1992 Paul Gascoigne Tottenham Lazio £5,500,000
1995January Andy Cole Newcastle United Manchester United £7,000,000
1995 Dennis Bergkamp Internazionale Arsenal £7,500,000
1995 Stan Collymore Nottinghamrest Liverpool £8,500,000
1996July 1996 Alan Shearer Blackburn Rovers Newcastle United £15,000,000
1999August 1999 Nicolas Anelka Arsenal Real Madrid £22,500,000
2001July 2001 Juan Sebastián Verón Lazio Manchester United £28,100,000
2002July 2002 Rio Ferdinand Leeds United Manchester United £29,100,000
2006July 2006 Andriy Shevchenko A.C. Milan Chelsea £30,800,000
2008 Robinho Real Madrid Manchester City £32,500,000
Im sure we broke the transfer record for Saunders aswell? We also broke the British record when we signed Rushie back.
ManU have broke the record so many times. They pissed so much money away on expensive flops, even when they were winning f**K all.
From WIKI:
But Saunders ended up at Liverpool, who paid a then English record fee of £2.9million as Ian Rush's new strike-partner following the departures of David Speedie and Peter Beardsley
You should read Dynasty: 50 Years of Shankly's Liverpool by Paul Tomkins. It's quite a good view on squads and transfers and portrays how the scouting was the key to our success. But in the 70's and 80's we weren't at the top of the spending list and only started to near it under the dark days of Souness.
We wern't exactly on the wane in 1991. We'd just won the title a season earlier.
If we'd have got a proper manager at the time, we would have won it again. Leeds wen't on to win the title in 1992 with a very average team.
Ooh, I disagree there. The rot had set in before Kenny left.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
We wern't as good as previous seasons, but definaltley good enough to win the title.
Quite possibly but if we weren't as good as we had been you're implying we were on the wane. The fact we haven't won it since 1990 suggests the others were catching us up around then, whether because we were declining or they were improving or, of course, a combination of the two.
Naturally, a better manager than Souness might well have been able to turn things around (including quite probably a clear-headed Dalglish) but I do feel the decline had started before he joined.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
We wern't exactly on the wane in 1991. We'd just won the title a season earlier.
Well, we last won it 89-90, and we bought him start of the 91-92 season, so strictly speaking had won it 2 seasons earlier, but besides the point. We haven't won the title since the 89-90 season so we clearly weren't ruling English football after that season.
90-91 Arsenal took their 2nd title in 3 seasons, so if anyone could argue they were ruling English football.....
Though tbh I don't think anyone was in that period which is why the mancs got so dominant.
There was a large empty gap at the top which they managed to lift into.
Quite possibly but if we weren't as good as we had been you're implying we were on the wane. The fact we haven't won it since 1990 suggests the others were catching us up around then, whether because we were declining or they were improving or, of course, a combination of the two.
Naturally, a better manager than Souness might well have been able to turn things around (including quite probably a clear-headed Dalglish) but I do feel the decline had started before he joined.
One of Souness main problems was trying to sell off all the older experienced players and bring in youth when they weren't quite ready. He did a more toned down version of Arsene Wengers policy if you like.
The main thing that sums up his reign was the selling of Staunton and then the re signing of Staunton after he had left. Tells it's own story.
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