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    The Premiership's best fans and the worst

    The Premiership's best fans and the worst.
    Does Anfield really top the lot? Are West Ham fans the most loyal? Do Arsenal supporters suit the Emirates better than Highbury? And why do Spurs have an electricity problem?


    When Thierry Henry said his farewells to Arsenal, he heaped praise on their fans, their dedication to the cause and the support they had given him and his team-mates. Getting away from the fact that most new arrivals and indeed heart-wrenching departures tend to fall foul to this somewhat generic response to inane questions about what they feel about their new/old fans, it got me thinking which set of fans can claim to be the most vociferous, dedicated and fervent. Or indeed which stadium has the best atmosphere.

    Over the years, I have visited a great many football grounds whilst following my team’s progress. There is no need for me to broadcast my affiliations; if you want to know, post a comment and depending on how you ask I might just tell you (oh, and I am including my club’s fans in this piece so don't think that because I don't name a team that by a process of elimination you will find out where my season-ticket funds go!).

    During this time I have experienced some pretty fierce (but very rarely violent) atmospheres and have also encountered a deathly wall of silence (even when said side was 3-0 ahead). We all know the stereotypes attached to certain sets of fans, from the prawn-sandwich brigade at Old Trafford to the exceptionally loyal and loud Toon Army. I have to say that the stereotypes have very rarely fit the profile.


    'I have found my recent visits to Stamford Bridge to be pretty unbearable - both on the ground and for the general air of entitlement that some of these newly-formed Chelsea fans exude'


    Manchester United have the most fans - but are they most dedicated? I think not, but before anyone gets carried away with annoyance at any statement they read from here on, I would point out that my observations are merely based on my attendance at the grounds in question, so maybe I caught them on a bad day or conversely on a good one.

    Liverpool’s ground is often lauded by media types as being the Mecca of football stadia, a place steeped in history where the fans display their love for their team more evidently than at any other ground. I have been to Anfield on three occasions and have to say I was impressed. They were even on the end of a drubbing on one of those occasions and still stuck it out until the final whistle (something I commend greatly and which United fans could learn from, although I guess winning week in, week out can get boring - so why not head for the car park and beat the traffic?).

    Spurs fans tend to be a self-deprecating bunch who are very much a product of a rich history followed by relative mediocrity. Atmosphere-wise, though, White Hart Lane is hardly electric - but they do sell out most weekends. Is that more due to a smaller stadium within a densely populated area, I wonder?


    I always found Arsenal’s Highbury stadium to lack something. Don’t ask me what but it never really did it for me. However, on my first visit to the Emirates I have to say I was impressed. Maybe the new structure did something for the support as it now feels like a cauldron.

    Portsmouth fans have often been the subject of much admiration and Fratton Park does have an impressive buzz about the place - kind of like The Dell did when Southampton played there. Whether this is more down to the closeness of the fans to the pitch, or indeed the relatively compact nature of the stadium, I could only guess that the answer is yes.

    Having visited Villa Park, I have to say I was not impressed by either Aston Villa’s support or their aging façade of a stadium. West Ham fans are very loud and do tend to stick with it through the bad patches and I respect them for that. I was always partial to Everton’s Goodison Park, but that might be more down to the positive results that my side has secured there on an alarmingly regular basis.

    Then we come to Chelsea fans, who can't help suddenly being the subject of some relatively speedy historical changes that have taken them from also-rans to top-dogs in such a short time. I have no doubt there are some loyal supporters who have been there through the bad times and I also have no doubt that they far outweigh their annoying contingent of floating fans. However, that said, I have found my recent visits to Stamford Bridge to be pretty unbearable - both on the ground and for the general air of entitlement that some of these newly-formed Chelsea fans exude.

    I am sure I have offended a great many people with these thoughts but I assure you that is not my aim. I am genuinely interested to know other people's opinions of their own fans and indeed their rivals’. I am doubtful if this debate can occur without a mass of expletives and barbaric vitriol - but it’s but worth asking the questions nonetheless.

    I always found Arsenal’s Highbury stadium to lack something. Don’t ask me what but it never really did it for me. However, on my first visit to the Emirates I have to say I was impressed. Maybe the new structure did something for the support as it now feels like a cauldron.

    Portsmouth fans have often been the subject of much admiration and Fratton Park does have an impressive buzz about the place - kind of like The Dell did when Southampton played there. Whether this is more down to the closeness of the fans to the pitch, or indeed the relatively compact nature of the stadium, I could only guess that the answer is yes.

    Having visited Villa Park, I have to say I was not impressed by either Aston Villa’s support or their aging façade of a stadium. West Ham fans are very loud and do tend to stick with it through the bad patches and I respect them for that. I was always partial to Everton’s Goodison Park, but that might be more down to the positive results that my side has secured there on an alarmingly regular basis.

    Then we come to Chelsea fans, who can't help suddenly being the subject of some relatively speedy historical changes that have taken them from also-rans to top-dogs in such a short time. I have no doubt there are some loyal supporters who have been there through the bad times and I also have no doubt that they far outweigh their annoying contingent of floating fans. However, that said, I have found my recent visits to Stamford Bridge to be pretty unbearable - both on the ground and for the general air of entitlement that some of these newly-formed Chelsea fans exude.

    I am sure I have offended a great many people with these thoughts but I assure you that is not my aim. I am genuinely interested to know other people's opinions of their own fans and indeed their rivals’. I am doubtful if this debate can occur without a mass of expletives and barbaric vitriol - but it’s but worth asking the questions nonetheless.

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    Got this from a mate (West Ham fan) about the thoughts of a travelled and cultured West Ham footballing connoisseur. Anyway my point is this, we really have to do something about the atmosphere at Anfield. The European and big games apart. I go to most matches home and away (and although I still think that we have the best fans) Anfield does get a little too quiet from time to time as we all know. I don't mean hand plastic flags out at the turnstiles (aka Chelsea) I mean get behind the team for 90 minutes now that Anfield is a fortress again. Stoke fans were the worst I saw at Anfield, but at home they are loud (in a small stadium which reverberates). What do you think?

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    it's always a tough debate this - some people blame ott's, some blame season ticket holders who take it for granted that they go to every game, some people blame the team for not getting the crowd going.

    From my point of view I am lucky enough to attend most matches - and I have lost count the amount of games i have been to over the last say 5 to 10 years that have just been dire and drab affairs! The performance on the pitch has been below par and as a result the atmosphere in the crowd has been like library. I do though think that last year, it defo started to improve, and i put this down to a direct result that we for the first time in ages looked like real contenders on the pitch.

    Another reason why i think the atmosphere has suffered is the dreadful ****ing attempts of away support I witness at practically every home game in the league!!! - **** me if i hear one more team come here and chant "sign on, sign on" or "its so quiet, it's so quiet, in anfield it's so quiet" which is a chant that doesn't even have a ****ing tune! i will prob slit my wrists!!! -

    i really think this plays as much as part in this 'dull league game' atmosphere as anything - the away fans are just as a whole ****e, and unoriginal - and u can physically hear the groans and moans in the kop when the away fans start one of these ****e chants, u can sense every red fan feeling ****ing hell not this crap again! - i have mates from uni say villa fans, and they say "we were at anfield the other day and u boys were ****e it was dead in the ground" - and my response is always, well ****in hell if and when we get away fans that come out with something other than "where's ur famous atmosphere" we will actually give some atmosphere back but we can't be arsed responding to no marks cause it's just boring. -

    I know for a fact that when ever there is a bouyant away crowd with a bit of orginality in a chant, or something funny to say other than the usual "sign on" - it all of a sudden wakes the kop up!! - u hear it and see it happening!! - eg, a few years ago a dull game against newcastle until their fans started the "shearer's going to get you" at bellamy! - the kop suddenly went ****ing hell! thats funny, at last we have some fans to get some banter going and the atmosphere lifted. It happens all the time

    So i think there is a few factors that all play a part - one could be controversial and say it's cause of ott's, but at the same time i will also say i see and know plenty of season ticket holders who take it for granted they go every week and just sit in silence. I also think the performance plays a big part, but the one major ingredient for a good atmosphere that always gets overlooked, is some decent original away fans
    i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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      #3
      Originally posted by PTP View Post
      it's always a tough debate this - some people blame ott's, some blame season ticket holders who take it for granted that they go to every game, some people blame the team for not getting the crowd going.

      From my point of view I am lucky enough to attend most matches - and I have lost count the amount of games i have been to over the last say 5 to 10 years that have just been dire and drab affairs! The performance on the pitch has been below par and as a result the atmosphere in the crowd has been like library. I do though think that last year, it defo started to improve, and i put this down to a direct result that we for the first time in ages looked like real contenders on the pitch.

      Another reason why i think the atmosphere has suffered is the dreadful ****ing attempts of away support I witness at practically every home game in the league!!! - **** me if i hear one more team come here and chant "sign on, sign on" or "its so quiet, it's so quiet, in anfield it's so quiet" which is a chant that doesn't even have a ****ing tune! i will prob slit my wrists!!! -

      i really think this plays as much as part in this 'dull league game' atmosphere as anything - the away fans are just as a whole ****e, and unoriginal - and u can physically hear the groans and moans in the kop when the away fans start one of these ****e chants, u can sense every red fan feeling ****ing hell not this crap again! - i have mates from uni say villa fans, and they say "we were at anfield the other day and u boys were ****e it was dead in the ground" - and my response is always, well ****in hell if and when we get away fans that come out with something other than "where's ur famous atmosphere" we will actually give some atmosphere back but we can't be arsed responding to no marks cause it's just boring. -

      I know for a fact that when ever there is a bouyant away crowd with a bit of orginality in a chant, or something funny to say other than the usual "sign on" - it all of a sudden wakes the kop up!! - u hear it and see it happening!! - eg, a few years ago a dull game against newcastle until their fans started the "shearer's going to get you" at bellamy! - the kop suddenly went ****ing hell! thats funny, at last we have some fans to get some banter going and the atmosphere lifted. It happens all the time

      So i think there is a few factors that all play a part - one could be controversial and say it's cause of ott's, but at the same time i will also say i see and know plenty of season ticket holders who take it for granted they go every week and just sit in silence. I also think the performance plays a big part, but the one major ingredient for a good atmosphere that always gets overlooked, is some decent original away fans
      I agree with you, pretty much spot on. I remember last year particularly the Stoke, Hull, Sunderland games the away fans - (mainly Stoke and Hull) rather than cheering their teams on - abusing rafa (fat spanish waiter). That wasn't banter it was pathetic, the games were drab and the crowd got frustrated and quiet. Should have been 9 points in the end it was only 5 and cost us dearly. I agree it's getting better, next season there has to be even more volume and energy - the fans need to play their part at all home games especially the early kick-offs (12 noon).

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        #4
        We shouldn't have to wait for the away fans to be funny or original

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          #5
          Has anyone got the quotes from Souness about Liverpool fans?

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            #6
            Originally posted by smu1977 View Post
            We shouldn't have to wait for the away fans to be funny or original
            Don't get me wrong, this isn't an evaluation of the performance of visiting supporters to Anfield. It's only relevant if they make more noise than us, at times for long periods they do. As PTP said, it is getting better. Anfield should be a cauldron like it used to be.

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              #7
              Originally posted by smu1977 View Post
              We shouldn't have to wait for the away fans to be funny or original
              aye i totally agree - thats not what i was trying to get at - i was more pointing out that it plays a big part in creating the atmosphere - in general, when people discuss the atmosphere at anfield a lot of people are quick to point the finger at say ott's, or the regular match goers who don't get excited or the team for not giving the crowd anything to get excited about - i was just adding that the away fans play a huge part imo for the match day atmosphere but they often get overlooked.
              i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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