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    My early season thoughts

    I said this after the spurs game, we just don't look 'flexible' or capable of changing things on the pitch, and then you look to the bench for inspiration and it is well what the ****!

    A few early random observations after the first three games

    Tactics

    I like the 4-2-3-1 formation, but u need to be able to adjust now and then. United and Chelsea do it - if thinks aren't happening, they seem to seamlessly adjust personal on the pitch for 10-20 mins and see what happens - we seem too rigid in our setup, when it clicks no problems, when it doesn't we look ****ed for ideas until the last 10 mins when we seem to go gung ho and lob on the two most ineffective players i have seen in voronin and babel.

    I am trying hard to not have a go at lucas here, but you look at the two holding midfielders, and neither offer anything offensively - not a goal threat or danger of either getting a lucky deflection from decent strike, or through ball that puts torres away. - It just looks flat...........so you have to ask why we have the two of them! - well mascher has excellent work rate, is a good committed tackler, and is superb at breaking up counter attacks, sound! - lucas.....er well at best he is neat and tidy and can take a touch and pop the ball 4 yards sideways to a player in space.

    This is fair enough in tough game away from home or europe when teams seem to give you a bit more space - i would like to see us be a little bit more adventurous at home - go 4-3-3 with mascher in the middle with gerrard and say kuyt - then play torres with benayoun and another (thats a prob though who?) haha - not saying thats the answer, i am not an expert but we need some other options or system to have to blow away the other team and keep them on the back foot for 90 mins

    Defending set pieces - this has ****ed me off for some time now, forget about this zonal arguement! - what really does my head in is - we are the only ****ing team at any level of the game from premier league to Sunday league that have every single player defending in the box every single time!!! Why? - it's not like we never ever concede from set pieces, if we never did concede then well fair enough - but we have 11 men in the box and still ship goals from set pieces. I have always understood brining the likes of crouch or now, torres, back for their aerial ability - but why can't we say right, yossi - it's 2 mins in to the game at home - 0-0, yossi stay on the halfway and look to break.

    The players

    Gerrard just looked lost, his lunge was ****ing stupid, torres was isolated, again mentioned this against spurs, it doesn't matter how good torres is, when against two to three fit and strong defenders who only have to worry about torres the defenders are made up - one just smothers him, the other looks for any loose balls, he needs some support from somewhere, or we need to make the defenders worry and panic a bit about something else

    Benayoun - I really like him at the mo, we need to try and get him in space and get the ball too his feet..

    Kuyt - Well he has improved some of the basics that he has taken stick for, and the sheer work rate is enough to keep him in

    Johnson - looks a star and complements kuyt down the right

    Insua - young lad settling well, no real complaints for him

    Carra and Skrtel - can't argue with either as defenders, brave, committed and tough as nails - do feel we miss the threat from agger coming over the half way line though.

    Reina - best keeper in the league by a mile - fit, strong, athletic, confident, brave, great shot stopper, great reflexes

    Aquliani - feel sorry for this lad, because he needs to be a ****ing world beater and settle immediatley

    The bench/rest of squad - er.....nevermind

    Off the pitch

    What a shambles - Rafa i feel sorry for, i really do like him, he makes mistakes, can be stubborn and yes pisses me off at times but i do have faith in him - but i worry, he is under constant pressure from the ****ing media, he obv doesn't get on with the owners and right now it's the love of the fans that has kept in going.......but another few performances like that and it will soon turn.....once the yanks reckon he has 'lost' the fans they will strike - it's a major worry because for whatever complaints people mayy have about rafa on the pitch, off the pitch he is the only person I trust who has liverpool football club and it's fans best interests at heart.


    The yanks - just **** off, since day one of your takeover Liverpool football club has just become one huge, embarrasing joke of a drama. Have the grace and the ****ing balls to say "listen people, we are sorry, we ****ed up, we didn't realise what was required financially and more importantly morally to own such a huge and famous club - we underestimated it's meaning to so many - we tried our best, but we admit we ****ed up, we hope u remember the few good things we gave - torres etc and somehow forgive us for all the ****e, and we are selling up to and will try and find someone worthy of owning this club"



    AHhhhh thats better - knee jerk rant done
    Last edited by PTP; 25-08-09, 10:53 AM.
    i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

    #2
    Interesting how no one was having a go at the yanks when we were on good run and ended up finishing 2nd. Blame the players for a poor start, no one else.

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      #3
      Yes, some good points there. Agger and Acquilani will hopefully make a difference for us in terms of keeping the ball and starting attacks, weird saying that Agger will help start attacks but he's great at bringing the ball out of defence. Like an extra midfielder at times.

      Btw, anyone know what the story is with Riera?
      "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
      Tupac

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        #4
        Originally posted by carheex View Post
        Interesting how no one was having a go at the yanks when we were on good run and ended up finishing 2nd. Blame the players for a poor start, no one else.
        correct me if i am wrong but last season ended before this transfer window opened?

        I would have been happy with the yanks if they had done what was apparently discussed which was the 20m+ transfers recieved in, as it happens they have gone back on there word since we finished 2nd last season hence making me pissed with them
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        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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          #5
          Originally posted by carheex View Post
          Interesting how no one was having a go at the yanks when we were on good run and ended up finishing 2nd. Blame the players for a poor start, no one else.
          I am not having a go at the yanks for us not winning the league or not starting well this season!!!!! - i am having a go at the yanks for well turning liverpool football into a ****ing soap opera!!! the last few years since thye have took over have been like 3 series of Dream Team (remeber that hahaha) - thats my issue with them - even when we were ****e under souness, evans, houllier - at least the club as a whole had some diginity - now we are just a laughing stock - it's just constant non stop media speculation about players leaving/coming, rafa leaving/staying, money coming/going etc etc tec and every story has one vital ingrediant - the ****ing owners! - now i am not being unrealistic, every club has to deal with speculation - but Liverpool Football Club have just been non-stop hammered by the media from every angle since they took over
          i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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            #6
            Originally posted by red g View Post
            correct me if i am wrong but last season ended before this transfer window opened?

            I would have been happy with the yanks if they had done what was apparently discussed which was the 20m+ transfers recieved in, as it happens they have gone back on there word since we finished 2nd last season hence making me pissed with them
            Heard an interesting rumour regarding the money ie a mate of a mate of a mate type thing...it's not been taken for loan repayments, it's been put aside for this stadium malarky, along with money from the initial loan, and this is the reason Rafa hasn't seemed overly concerned.

            Sigh, be nice if it was true, but it sounds too good.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Scratch View Post
              Heard an interesting rumour regarding the money ie a mate of a mate of a mate type thing...it's not been taken for loan repayments, it's been put aside for this stadium malarky, along with money from the initial loan, and this is the reason Rafa hasn't seemed overly concerned.

              Sigh, be nice if it was true, but it sounds too good.
              would be great news, save it for a positive week
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              Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

              Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                #8
                Originally posted by carheex View Post
                Interesting how no one was having a go at the yanks when we were on good run and ended up finishing 2nd. Blame the players for a poor start, no one else.
                Blame the players and manager for poor performances I agree. But blame the board for a complete lack of funding thus far. Last year our net spend was in the positive, this year it's in the negative. If a team has success it papers over the cracks and people would be less likely to have a pop at the Yanks, that is only natural.
                Forwards.......

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PTP View Post
                  I am not having a go at the yanks for us not winning the league or not starting well this season!!!!! - i am having a go at the yanks for well turning liverpool football into a ****ing soap opera!!! the last few years since thye have took over have been like 3 series of Dream Team (remeber that hahaha) - thats my issue with them - even when we were ****e under souness, evans, houllier - at least the club as a whole had some diginity - now we are just a laughing stock - it's just constant non stop media speculation about players leaving/coming, rafa leaving/staying, money coming/going etc etc tec and every story has one vital ingrediant - the ****ing owners! - now i am not being unrealistic, every club has to deal with speculation - but Liverpool Football Club have just been non-stop hammered by the media from every angle since they took over

                  Gillet and Hicks presented the problems within the club. But it was Rafa who turned the club into a soap opera by talking to the media at every turn. Some would say what he said needed to be and I would agree. But it obviously effected results at the time.

                  Problem is that after all this naming and shaming we are no better of than what we were. Still in the same position even after all those protests and all those newspaper headlines.
                  Forwards.......

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                    Heard an interesting rumour regarding the money ie a mate of a mate of a mate type thing...it's not been taken for loan repayments, it's been put aside for this stadium malarky, along with money from the initial loan, and this is the reason Rafa hasn't seemed overly concerned.

                    Sigh, be nice if it was true, but it sounds too good.
                    If that's the case then you'd expect the Yanks to come out with an announcement shortly about how they are going to finance the stadium and when work will re-start. It's not doing them any favours with everyone thinking they've nicked the transfer kitty to pay off their personal loans.

                    Would be nice if true.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
                      If that's the case then you'd expect the Yanks to come out with an announcement shortly about how they are going to finance the stadium and when work will re-start. It's not doing them any favours with everyone thinking they've nicked the transfer kitty to pay off their personal loans.

                      Would be nice if true.


                      Indeed. Whilst we are all pissed off, if we knew there was a good reason for it all it would calm the majority down.
                      Forwards.......

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