Sing Your Heart Out For the Future of LFC

[danwms]

There is a lot of talk about what we can do to get rid of our current parasite owners, i think we should stick to what we are good at and use the voice of the Kop to get rid of them....

Thinking back to the Justice for the 96 chant and the attention that brought, we just need to do the same as that.

I think if we can spread the word a non stop chant would do the job.
When the warm up is taking place chant all the players, rafa and Liverpool songs to make sure they all know that they have our support but once the game kicks off chant against the owners over and over again non stop.

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They don't care about Rafa.
They don't care about Fans.
Liverpool football club is in the wrong hands.

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Send out leaflets before the game and in the local paper even explaining why this needs to be done and with the words for the chant. If it is done continuously throughout the game like the 96 chant more and more people will join in and be aware.

It should be repeated every week, at every home game more fans will join in and it will gather more coverage in the media which will in turn educate even more fans. Throw in all the anti H&G banners etc to hammer the point home.

This will be Liverpool fans fighting for their cause in the way they are famous for, using the 12th man. No need for anti US jibs, no need for pitch invasions or any action that could jeopardise your ticket etc just turn up and sing your heart out for the future of our club.

Its simple, we just have to get off our arses and get it done.


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Mods please could you correct the typo in the title

[Scratch]

Yeah, lets get the club back in the papers for all the wrong reasons, destablise the team at the start of the season...we need to be backing the team throughout the game, not singing songs about owners who won't give a toss what we sing...the only way they will leave is if a) they get a top dollar offer or b) the clubs does extremely poorly league wise....the first is unlikely, the second is unwanted.

[danwms]

What would you rather do then?

Just sit back and wait until teams like Man City and Spurs knock us out of the top 4 due to our lack of investment leading to the club having to sell players and the fall from the top that would result?

I'm more concerned with our long term future.

Also i don't think it would have an effect on the players, i'm sure if they could they would have come out and expressed their concerns as well.

[EwarWoo]

What would you rather do then?

Support the team until a practical solution is available?

I'm more concerned with our long term future.

Long term my arse. Get the current owners out and....and....and....ermmmm....

All this rhetoric is about as short sighted as it gets.

[Scratch]

What would you rather do then?

Just sit back and wait until teams like Man City and Spurs knock us out of the top 4 due to our lack of investment leading to the club having to sell players and the fall from the top that would result?

I'm more concerned with our long term future.

Also i don't think it would have an effect on the players, i'm sure if they could they would have come out and expressed their concerns as well.

Hicks and Gillett are business men, and they can not afford to let Liverpool become a second tier club. They know that without LFC being successful, they will not ever make a return on their investment. Yes, we appear to be short on funds (altho i do agree with Purslow that the funds for all these renegotiated contracts/signing on fees/etc have to come from somewhere, so why not out of a budget set aside for player purchases, which is essential what a contract renewal amounts to, but not to the extremes)...but we have bought in two quality players, whilst cleansing the deadwood (young players not needed) and making good money on players deemed surplus to requirements.

The only thing i feel we are missing is cover for Torres, but cover for Torres would be stupidly expensive, and not happy to sit on the bench, which would mean a complete change in formation, a formation that works (don't let 5 goals conceded from set plays fool you, the formation works, cos we are creating the chances, we're just conceding stupid goals all the time).

I'm not worried about the future...i'd love it if we were bank-rolled by some big wealthy arab/indian/american entrepreneur, but in the mean time the two we have in charge have moved the club forwards, have reduced the debt the piled on the club and, if their business plan is to succeed, they will either need to build a stadium asap or sell up...they will know this.

[danwms]

Did you just say they have reduced the debt on the club?

[Scratch]

Did you just say they have reduced the debt on the club?

Yup i did...yes, it was debt that they put on in the first place, but apparantly it was one of the stipulations of RBS...reduce the debt by 60million in the next 6 months i think i read?

[danwms]

So the record sky tv money (£50m) that we are getting this season is going to pay off the debt that they built up trying to buy the club in the first place????????

That money should be going into the team.

[EwarWoo]

So the record sky tv money (£50m) that we are getting this season is going to pay off the debt that they built up trying to buy the club in the first place????????

That money should be going into the team.

Yes, most definitely, because we were spending big on players before they arrived so it's purely down to them.

And considering Arsenal and United have made a profit on their dealing and Chelsea have also spent sod all, it must be down to them and not just the current climate.

[Scratch]

So the record sky tv money (£50m) that we are getting this season is going to pay off the debt that they built up trying to buy the club in the first place????????

That money should be going into the team.

We don't know what money is going into what areas of the club...maybe we have a set amount put aside for stadium works, maybe Rafa was given his budget and spent it all....when the reports originally surfaced about the 60million reduction, it was implied that RBS wanted H/G to use their own assets for this purpose.

But yes, i would certainly expect some of the debt money to be paid off from money earned by the club. We have not exactly gone backwards under the americans, no matter what people may claim. They ain't the best of owners, but since the early days of everything being played out in the papers, they have gone quiet and appear to be working on the marketing side of the club, which previously was severely lacking.

[EwarWoo]

Well, not a fan of them myself, they're clearly not fulfilling their promises, and worst of all have increased our debt.

But yes, we've definitely not gone backwards, we'd be in no better a place if it was still Moores. Maybe less debt, but also no Torres and possibly no Mascher.

[Craig_H]

The intentions are good, but ultimately, they wont give a **** what we sing. If popularity mattered to them, they'd have been long gone already.

All we'd do is destablise the team and probably have a negative impact on results.

If people are really keen to do something that'd hurt the yanks, you'd basically have to stop buying tickets, merchandise and anything else than lines their pockets. To hurt them, you have to hurt the club short term.

And furthermore, it'd have to be in massive numbers, because the demand for tickets far outweighs supply and for every few thousand that boycotted, there'd be 5 or 10 times more people gagging to take their ticket.

[Roboklopp]

We havent gone backwards under the Yanks - at least on the surface, as the severe level of debt we have taken on some might view otherwise- but the progress has been down to Rafa, not them. He has raised our profile hugely in the CL.

[EwarWoo]

We havent gone backwards under the Yanks - at least on the surface, as the severe level of debt we have taken on some might view otherwise- but the progress has been down to Rafa, not them. He has raised our profile hugely in the CL.

So it had nothing to do with them immediately sanctioning a deal for Torres who finally gave us some attacking teeth?

I really don't think Mascher would have been agreed on at that price under Moores either, and he's also had a fairly big impact into how we play.

[Roboklopp]

Of course those players have had a large effect, but whether or not we suffer in the longer term for such purchases given the level of debt required to make them remains to be seen.

Given the increase in tellly revenue & Rafa's continued CL revenue generation, we might have seen Moores being a bit more forthcoming budget-wise by now. It's hardly like the Yanks have backed up that 1st summer with a decent net spend since is it? The last 2 years put us about £10m net spend up.

Aside from making in-roads to improving the couldn't-be-much-worse commercial aspects (again, a fair bit of this is due to Rafa's success in conducting things on the pitch), all the Septics have lent to us is a riskier business model. The same gearing could have been done by Moores to get us the players- and we wouldnt have had the purchase debt on the club. Any further leveraging could have been used to help us with the stadium as-per the Gooners.