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    Originally posted by Pacman View Post
    Rubbish.

    United wanted Benezma but they didn't value him at 42mil, the market is crazy so they signed Owen. Or so they want their fans to believe

    Owen himself stated that Fergie told him he would only be signed if United didn't sign Benezma. So Fergie told him a lie then...it's not beyond the realms of possibility

    If the price was right United would have bid for Benezma the money was there they just didn't think he was worth what was being quoted.Or United didn't have the money, but would like their fans to believe otherwise...weirdly, a lot of United fans i know reckon the money has gone towards the debt on the club...

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      Originally posted by Scratch View Post
      And they either pay off a lump sum, or they sell...it's a win-win situation for us as a club surely? And if reports were to be believed, the banks insisted it was their own money used, not the clubs??
      Have you got a link to that mate because I must have missed it.
      **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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        Originally posted by Pacman View Post
        Rubbish.

        United wanted Benezma but they didn't value him at 42mil, the market is crazy so they signed Owen.

        Owen himself stated that Fergie told him he would only be signed if United didn't sign Benezma.

        If the price was right United would have bid for Benezma the money was there they just didn't think he was worth what was being quoted.
        That's bollocks. A player's worth is equal to the money any club is willing to pay for him. Ronaldo was sold for £80m and there was one suitor, crazy or not. They had £80m allegedly in the bank to find a world class replacement, and according to plenty on here, Benzema is one. So why bulk at the asking price when they had the money???

        There's more than meets the eye in everything you read in the newspapers. But whatever suits your agenda, you'll settle for something to believe in to push your case. The Americans isn't high on your list, so it's easy to bash them.

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          That is all very cloak and dagger.

          Why would Fergie want to protect anyone? Maybe just maybe both Fergie and Owen were telling the truth.
          **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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            Originally posted by Pacman View Post
            That is all very cloak and dagger.

            Why would Fergie want to protect anyone? Maybe just maybe both Fergie and Owen were telling the truth.
            It's not protecting anyone, it's appeasing their fans...yeah, we had the money, don't worry, we just didn't feel the player was worth it...yeah, we believe you Mr Ferguson...

            Not got a link, i read it on here, or on Rawk, at the time of the deals. No idea where it came from tho.

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              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              That's bollocks. A player's worth is equal to the money any club is willing to pay for him. Ronaldo was sold for £80m and there was one suitor, crazy or not. They had £80m allegedly in the bank to find a world class replacement, and according to plenty on here, Benzema is one. So why bulk at the asking price when they had the money???

              There's more than meets the eye in everything you read in the newspapers. But whatever suits your agenda, you'll settle for something to believe in to push your case. The Americans isn't high on your list, so it's easy to bash them.
              Hang on so let me get this straight.

              So you think just because United have sold one player for 80mil (the world player of the year) they should sign another less proven player for the same price or if not the same price for an amount of money which they think he isn't worth?

              Yeah right Fredo come on mate.
              **** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.

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                Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                It's not protecting anyone, it's appeasing their fans...yeah, we had the money, don't worry, we just didn't feel the player was worth it...yeah, we believe you Mr Ferguson...

                Not got a link, i read it on here, or on Rawk, at the time of the deals. No idea where it came from tho.
                Or maybe United have the cash and are being sensible considering clubs like City have paid way over the odds for players like Lescott thus making the market stupid?

                How do you know what Fergie and Owen have stated isn't the truth? If United are skint why are they reportedly interested in Silva in Jan?
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                  Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                  Hang on so let me get this straight.

                  So you think just because United have sold one player for 80mil (the world player of the year) they should sign another less proven player for the same price or if not the same price for an amount of money which they think he isn't worth?

                  Yeah right Fredo come on mate.
                  Benzema was sold for around £40m and United were 'allegedly' willing to offer only around £32m. Don't you think they couldn't have gone that little bit further, especially taking into account he came to OT and visited the place? In any case, maybe they were rejected by Benzema anyway but Ferguson went out publicly to state that he pulled the plug on it because he wasn't worth that amount of money.

                  Then Villa was available, still they couldn't prise him away, considering Villa is probably the best centre forward out there at the moment, including Torres.

                  United is £700m in debt, yet they still make massive profits and Ferguson gets his way when he wants to sign players for massive fees. It's more or less the same business model than ours. I don't see any problem in that, unless you don't qualify to the CL every season and lose revenues, which still wouldn't be a disaster for them and us, considering our huge fan base.

                  United is also just a 'few payments away' of going into Administration *cue Craig_H*, but hey, that's just doom mongering.

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                    Originally posted by Operation View Post
                    Just curious, do you have any experience of accounting at all?
                    He has, in his time, accounted for a lot of cakes and pasties.
                    .
                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                      Or maybe United have the cash and are being sensible considering clubs like City have paid way over the odds for players like Lescott thus making the market stupid?

                      How do you know what Fergie and Owen have stated isn't the truth? If United are skint why are they reportedly interested in Silva in Jan?
                      We could use the same arguments on our predicament as well...maybe we wanted players but got quoted stupid prices?

                      And Silva in Jan, when he's cup-tied, will be a lot less money than Silva at the start of the season...how do you know we won't go back for a player in Jan, when we know his value will be less?

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                        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                        We could use the same arguments on our predicament as well...maybe we wanted players but got quoted stupid prices?

                        And Silva in Jan, when he's cup-tied, will be a lot less money than Silva at the start of the season...how do you know we won't go back for a player in Jan, when we know his value will be less?
                        Valencia aren't in the Champions League mate so he aint cup tied.

                        Maybe we did get quoted stupid prices but then again why did Purslow say we spent our budget this summer to the penny?
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                          Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                          Valencia aren't in the Champions League mate so he aint cup tied.

                          Maybe we did get quoted stupid prices but then again why did Purslow say we spent our budget this summer to the penny?
                          Who is Penny?




                          These jokes are getting worse and worse.
                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                            Valencia aren't in the Champions League mate so he aint cup tied.

                            Maybe we did get quoted stupid prices but then again why did Purslow say we spent our budget this summer to the penny?
                            Do you think he should say everything and reveal away our tactics/plans?

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                              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                              Who is Penny?




                              These jokes are getting worse and worse.
                              Penny Less.

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                                Originally posted by Pacman View Post
                                Or maybe United have the cash and are being sensible considering clubs like City have paid way over the odds for players like Lescott thus making the market stupid?

                                How do you know what Fergie and Owen have stated isn't the truth? If United are skint why are they reportedly interested in Silva in Jan?
                                "Reportedly" is the key word. Don't believe everything you read in the papers. It's not a fact, just some journo has a few column inches to fill.

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