Fancy Buying 25% Of Liverpool For £100m?

[Scratch]

its a sales document to generate interest not offical books

I'm well aware of what it is thank you, and it looks A-level standard.

[Lecter]

I'm well aware of what it is thank you, and it looks A-level standard.

It would have to be pretty "simple" to attract someone daft enough to get into bed with Hicks & Gillett

[Lecter]

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Re: Anyone ever seen this before
« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2009, 07:46:20 AM »

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The pics are genuine. They are from a prospectus which was produced about a year ago as part of ongoing efforts to sell the club, which was shown to me by friends at Merrills.

They confirm 2 things that I have long been saying.

1. the club is for sale and the owners are desperate to sell, now if possible, if not certainly within 3 years. They want out as soon as they get a reasonable price.

2. If you read the prospectus carefully and do the sums you will see that they are valuing the club at £300M and that is the price at which they will sell. All this talk of £500M+ valuations are bollocks.

The club is on sale for roughly £300M and has been for about 18 months. There have been no takers, and little interest, even at that price.

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It would have to be pretty "simple" to attract someone daft enough to get into bed with Hicks & Gillett

A fair point.

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Re: Anyone ever seen this before
« Reply #82 on: September 15, 2009, 07:46:20 AM »

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The pics are genuine. They are from a prospectus which was produced about a year ago as part of ongoing efforts to sell the club, which was shown to me by friends at Merrills.

They confirm 2 things that I have long been saying.

1. the club is for sale and the owners are desperate to sell, now if possible, if not certainly within 3 years. They want out as soon as they get a reasonable price.

2. If you read the prospectus carefully and do the sums you will see that they are valuing the club at £300M and that is the price at which they will sell. All this talk of £500M+ valuations are bollocks.

The club is on sale for roughly £300M and has been for about 18 months. There have been no takers, and little interest, even at that price.

A year ago...or March 2009...big difference.

25% has long been talked about, not the whole club.

I'd be willing to be that the club would not be sold for £300m

Walton Red, whoever he may be, ain't a financial guru.

[Le Chef]

I noticed that they included a £20m outlay per financial year for transfers and this is to grow in line with expected revenue increases.

[Le Chef]

Hmmmn, still not convinced these are the real deal though Lecter....reading through, it's the sort of thing any no-mark Uni student could knock together as a project, laugh...stick a Merrill Lynch cover sheet on and away you go, internet propoganda...not saying it's not real, just that it comes across as a very amateurish presentation, not the sort of thing i'd associate with a large instituion such as them.

Still, makes for an interesting dicussion platform, so i look forward to reading more.

Regardless of the presentation the data looks to be pretty much geniune. I've seen presenations from big banks and large media orgainsations and half them have been worse than that. At best its an introduction to the business as opposed to a detailed investiagtion. Anyone interest would undertake significant due dilligence etc before investing

[Shaggy]

Regardless of the presentation the data looks to be pretty much geniune. I've seen presenations from big banks and large media orgainsations and half them have been worse than that. At best its an introduction to the business as opposed to a detailed investiagtion. Anyone interest would undertake significant due dilligence etc before investing

[Le Chef]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Lecter/019.jpg

I think that this proves that as long as we stay in the top four, and reach the 2nd round of the CL, That will be good enough for the yanks, Each summer just spend the bare amount of money on quality that will keep us in the top four, They coudnt give a toss if we won the league or not.

In fairness its a realistic forecast based on previous years results. You can forecast growth only if it is backed up by geniune data. Finishing 4th for 3 years and then a 2nd, would average out at around 3.5 rounded up/down to 4th.

[Lecter]

A year ago...or March 2009...big difference.

25% has long been talked about, not the whole club.

I'd be willing to be that the club would not be sold for £300m

Walton Red, whoever he may be, ain't a financial guru.

I do think the club has been for sale for sometime

I also think that the owners valuation is unrealistic (I dont think they would sell at £300 million)

Equally I do not think anyone would pay £300 million for the club

In fact I still find it hard to understand what has happened to increase the value of the club from £174 million (their purchase price) to even the current debt level

[dom9]

I do think the club has been for sale for sometime

I also think that the owners valuation is unrealistic (I dont think they would sell at £300 million)

Equally I do not think anyone would pay £300 million for the club

In fact I still find it hard to understand what has happened to increase the value of the club from £174 million (their purchase price) to even the current debt level

I think Moores undervalued it myself.

[Lecter]

I think Moores undervalued it myself.

I agree but not by too much

I remember one of the financial journals did an analysis of Liverpools value 30 or 40 days after the takeover and they valued it at circa £200 million

Now even taking that into account I dont see what has changed drastically to make the club worth £300 million or higher

[Le Chef]

I agree but not by too much

I remember one of the financial journals did an analysis of Liverpools value 30 or 40 days after the takeover and they valued it at circa £200 million

Now even taking that into account I dont see what has changed drastically to make the club worth £300 million or higher

TV deal has got larger, therefore expected income is set to grow

Also, they got rid of Parry - That has to be worth £50m+

[kingfunk]

I agree but not by too much

I remember one of the financial journals did an analysis of Liverpools value 30 or 40 days after the takeover and they valued it at circa £200 million

Now even taking that into account I dont see what has changed drastically to make the club worth £300 million or higher

£80m plus sponsorship deal? Torres?

[Scratch]

£80m plus sponsorship deal? Torres?

Much improved global marketing and revenue.