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Poor mans momo.Originally posted by MrMichael View PostI have to say I think Plessis is never going to make it. Willing, but not very able at all with a football at his feet. And that's being really kind.
The Spearing thing is just silly, totally agree with the OP. I'd love Spearing to be good.... but he'll turn out about the same level as Danny Guthrie I reckon. Its just become a case of "anyone but Lucas" for some fans. However we really haven't got any better options right now IF Rafa is going to insist on playing with 2 "holding" players._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
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or how bad can Spearing be if he is being kept out by someone as bad as Lucas? ( in some peoples eyes of courseOriginally posted by MrMichael View PostI have to say I think Plessis is never going to make it. Willing, but not very able at all with a football at his feet. And that's being really kind.
The Spearing thing is just silly, totally agree with the OP. I'd love Spearing to be good.... but he'll turn out about the same level as Danny Guthrie I reckon. Its just become a case of "anyone but Lucas" for some fans. However we really haven't got any better options right now IF Rafa is going to insist on playing with 2 "holding" players.
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Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
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I really thought Plessis had potential. I feel he is the sort of player who needed a loan to help him along and he does appear to be regressing and he was never at the level to really be thought of as a genuine first team contender to start with.Originally posted by MrMichael View PostI have to say I think Plessis is never going to make it. Willing, but not very able at all with a football at his feet. And that's being really kind.
The Spearing thing is just silly, totally agree with the OP. I'd love Spearing to be good.... but he'll turn out about the same level as Danny Guthrie I reckon. Its just become a case of "anyone but Lucas" for some fans. However we really haven't got any better options right now IF Rafa is going to insist on playing with 2 "holding" players."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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Originally posted by dww View PostI really thought Plessis had potential. I feel he is the sort of player who needed a loan to help him along and he does appear to be regressing and he was never at the level to really be thought of as a genuine first team contender to start with.
I'd also try farm Spearing out on loan to a Premier League team too, a team like Wolves, Bolton or Birmingham, But i doubt that'll happen because he fulfils our quota of home grown players.
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Yet another CM? Is he injured?Originally posted by Shaggy View PostSpearing's definitely from the Wirral...he's a wool.
Totally agree with the OP though...this clamouring for Spearing is ridiculous. He's ok at best...and not as good as Lucas. Ergo, he doesn't play.I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.
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He hasn't had 48 appearances because he hasn't shown himself good enough to be selected.Originally posted by red g View Posttherein lies the problem, to me thats all lucas is apart from the hunger sometimes
so why have a half decent 'jonny foreigner' taking that role when we can have 'one of our own' i am sure thats most peoples viewpoint.
i have no idea whether Spearing is better than lucas, I dont think he is right now......but i wish he would have had 48 games in the first team to improve his game!!!!
He's a reasonable squad player but I won't be surprised if he doesn't make 48 appearances in all his Liverpool career. I suspect he's another John Welsh and a career a division or two down beckons
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You really think that's all it's down to?Originally posted by Shaggy View PostSpearing's definitely from the Wirral...he's a wool.
Totally agree with the OP though...this clamouring for Spearing is ridiculous. He's ok at best...and not as good as Lucas. Ergo, he doesn't play.
Lucas will most likely not be as good as Aquilani and Mascherano - but will probably still play.
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Speaking as a Scouser, I can assure you that being a Scouser is not restricted to the city of Liverpool. While all people born in Liverpool are Scousers, not all Scousers are from Liverpool. Being Liverpudlian is not the only definition of a Scouser.Originally posted by redstaralex View PostI thought that he was from the wirral? he's a wool, same as SG and Carra, don't think we've had a scouser since Fowler
It's all about a shared background, heritage and accent. Therefore those from the Wirral, whether Jay Spearing today or Jason McAteer in the past, along with others that spring to mind like Carragher and Gerrard, of the current team and the likes of Phil Thompson, Terry McDermott, Roy Evans etc are as much Scousers as Fowler and McManaman and, indeed, myself being born and raised in within the city limits.
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Originally posted by Redspin View PostSpeaking as a Scouser, I can assure you that being a Scouser is not restricted to the city of Liverpool. While all people born in Liverpool are Scousers, not all Scousers are from Liverpool. Being Liverpudlian is not the only definition of a Scouser.
It's all about a shared background, heritage and accent. Therefore those from the Wirral, whether Jay Spearing today or Jason McAteer in the past, along with others that spring to mind like Carragher and Gerrard, of the current team and the likes of Phil Thompson, Terry McDermott, Roy Evans etc are as much Scousers as Fowler and McManaman and, indeed, myself being born and raised in within the city limits.
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Isn't our Jay from Birkenhead?
Birkenhead, Like Seacombe is practically Liverpool. The only thing different is a mile of water in between.Last edited by murder_inc; 02-10-09, 05:43 PM.That's my new book. 'Shut the **** Up, by Dr. Denis Leary'. Patients come in. 'Doctor I-' Shut the **** up! NEXT!! 'Doctor, I've got this-' SHUT THE **** UP!! NEXT! 'He made me feel so much better. He just told me to shut the **** up. Nobody ever told me that before!'
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Of course Carra's as much a scouser as McManaman, they're both from the same placeOriginally posted by Redspin View PostSpeaking as a Scouser, I can assure you that being a Scouser is not restricted to the city of Liverpool. While all people born in Liverpool are Scousers, not all Scousers are from Liverpool. Being Liverpudlian is not the only definition of a Scouser.
It's all about a shared background, heritage and accent. Therefore those from the Wirral, whether Jay Spearing today or Jason McAteer in the past, along with others that spring to mind like Carragher and Gerrard, of the current team and the likes of Phil Thompson, Terry McDermott, Roy Evans etc are as much Scousers as Fowler and McManaman and, indeed, myself being born and raised in within the city limits.
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