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    #46
    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Sunderland should've let us walk up the other end to equalise. Bent in particular is guilty IMO. That sly ****er knew his lame shot was being gathered by Reina, yet he ran off like he'd scored an amazing solo goal in the last minute of the World Cup final.
    Realistically, that was never going to happen. I don't even think the referee knew the rules as well.

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      #47
      Originally posted by RoadEnd View Post
      He should have used the valve.

      Pinch either side of the valve and squash the ball to slowly deflate. To get the last bit out, roll up on floor and this pushes the last bit of air out. He should then have folded it up neatly, climbed into the stand and given it back to it's rightful owner.

      Sack Reina


      This post deserves Le Ballon d'Or.
      --== Because the gang and the government is no different ==--

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        #48
        Originally posted by Joe King View Post
        Realistically, that was never going to happen. I don't even think the referee knew the rules as well.
        If that's the case then he shouldn't be a referee!
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          If that's the case then he shouldn't be a referee in the top flight!

          EDIT: He shouldn't be a referee at all
          I expect him to be demoted at the very least

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            #50
            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            There was no argument at Palace either, in fairness - the ball didn't even go in! It wasn't even close to being in, it clearly went wide! Yet a goal was given.
            The referee obviously thought the ball had gone into the goal, so he was right to give it. I'm not saying it was the right decision, but he was right to give the goal if that's what he saw. The referee at the Sunderland match knew that the direction of the ball had been changed by an object which shouldn't have been on the pitch so the decision was clear - it's in the rulebook. He consulted the linesman on the matter, so he knew what had happened. Lunacy.

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              #51
              Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
              The referee obviously thought the ball had gone into the goal, so he was right to give it. I'm not saying it was the right decision, but he was right to give the goal if that's what he saw. The referee at the Sunderland match knew that the direction of the ball had been changed by an object which shouldn't have been on the pitch so the decision was clear - it's in the rulebook. He consulted the linesman on the matter, so he knew what had happened. Lunacy.
              I'd imagine the principle is the same once the decision has been made it can't be overturned or the match replayed.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                I'd imagine the principle is the same once the decision has been made it can't be overturned or the match replayed.
                I agree, once the goal has been given then it cannot be changed during or after the match, and the match isn't going to be replayed. However, the fact is that the referee knew exactly what had happened and still gave the goal so he is not fit to referee a game of football.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                  I agree, once the goal has been given then it cannot be changed during or after the match, and the match isn't going to be replayed. However, the fact is that the referee knew exactly what had happened and still gave the goal so he is not fit to referee a game of football.
                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                    #54
                    Do we know the ref saw it tho? Yes, he discussed it with the linesman, but was he saying "it hit the ball, what do we do?" or was he asking "did it hit the ball or the defender?" What has he put in his match report?

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                      Do we know the ref saw it tho? Yes, he discussed it with the linesman, but was he saying "it hit the ball, what do we do?" or was he asking "did it hit the ball or the defender?" What has he put in his match report?
                      The ball didn't technically need to hit the ball though, the game should have been stopped anyway until the beachball had been removed from the pitch.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                        The ball didn't technically need to hit the ball though, the game should have been stopped anyway until the beachball had been removed from the pitch.
                        Well, normally the keeper would do it, but the ball came on the pitch during the build up to the goal, and Reina could not have afforded the time to move it...but i bet he wishes he had

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by cadmium View Post
                          We should never have sold Robbie Keane
                          It was more the selling...and then total failure to replace him

                          It was a moronic totally stubborn Rafa thing to do
                          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                            #58
                            Taken from the match report in the metro

                            http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...&in_page_id=43

                            Former Premier League referee Jeff Winter branded the decision to allow Sunderland's winner against Liverpool as 'absolutely amazing'

                            Winter said: 'I'm absolutely amazed. It is basic law in football. The goal should just not have stood.

                            'The laws of the game state that if there's an outside interference the game has to be stopped.

                            'Talk about an outside influence - the ball went in off the beach ball and completely deceived the Liverpool goalkeeper.

                            'I am absolutely amazed that for a referee at that level of football, that between him, his assistant, the fourth official, they didn't see what had happened and give the correct decision.'

                            Finally someone appreciating the seriousness of this, when everyone else is treating it as ajoke
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                              Taken from the match report in the metro

                              http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...&in_page_id=43




                              Finally someone appreciating the seriousness of this, when everyone else is treating it as ajoke
                              I think that's what has pissed me off the most about the whole thing. As I suggested previously, if it had happened to the Mancs and "Sir Alex" then it would be the biggest disgrace ever in football.
                              Last edited by Reece; 19-10-09, 09:13 AM.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Reece View Post
                                I think that's what has pissed me off the most about the whole thing. As I suggested previously, if it had happened to the Mancs and "Sir Alex" then it would be the biggest disgrace ever in football.


                                Admittedly I would probably have seen the funny side if it had happened to someone else, but after having a laugh you still have to identify that there is an underlying problem with what happened here.

                                Shankly said "the problem with referees is that they know the rules but they don't know the game", this one didn't even know the rules and for me for a referee in professional football that is unforgivable.
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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