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    Alan Hansen's views on the problems at Liverpool

    By next Sunday evening, they could be 10 points behind United and struggling to survive in the Champions League, but the real issue for Liverpool and Benítez is qualification for next season's Champions League.

    As a manager of one of the 'big four' clubs, it goes with the territory that your job will be on the line if you fail to qualify for Europe's top competition and all the revenue that brings. And Liverpool are by no means a shoe-in to finish in the Premier League top four this season.


    Manchester City and Tottenham arguably have stronger squads and you also have Aston Villa, who underlined their qualities by beating Chelsea on Saturday.

    That is why this week is so important. Two defeats would be catastrophic because Liverpool's title hopes would be over and they would face a real battle to progress beyond the group stages of the Champions League.

    If you have two games that define your season in April, then that's great. Two defining games in January wouldn't be so good, but to have those games in the middle of October suggests something is fundamentally wrong somewhere.

    People keep pointing to the sale of Xabi Alonso, but I'd suggest that the exits of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tévez at United were bigger losses, yet United are sitting at the top of the table.

    Liverpool need a new ground and you can argue that there has been a lack of investment, but to be fair to the owners, Benítez has bought a lot of players.

    Benítez has struggled in the £3-10m region, though, and players signed for those fees are an important factor. United signed Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra within that bracket and they have developed into two of the most important players in the league. Similarly, Arsenal appear to have done well with Thomas Vermaelen.

    But Benítez hasn't done well with anybody in that price region. Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano and Glen Johnson have been good signings, but they all cost big money.

    Over a length of time, you need four or five players in the £3-10m bracket to become great buys, but I don't see any at Liverpool.

    We all know that they rely heavily on their two out-and-out superstars – Torres and Steven Gerrard – but whenever they are out, other players must step up and deliver and it isn't happening.

    But the big problem on the pitch is that, six months ago, Liverpool looked rock-solid in defence, yet they now look so vulnerable. Benítez might disagree, but whenever a team changes its formation to accommodate three centre-backs, as Liverpool did at Sunderland, it's an admission that you are struggling.

    The results will tell you that Liverpool have been leaking goals - 10 from set-pieces - and, with the way things are going, you simply cannot see them going unbeaten for 10 or 20 games. Unless they do that, they are not going to get back in the title race.

    You can be sure the rest of the Premier League will not show any sympathy for Liverpool. The history and tradition of the 70s and 80s means nothing in 2009.

    The mood around Liverpool at the moment is one of total and utter doom and gloom, but they cannot feel sorry for themselves even with the intervention of that beach ball!

    While the picture will be bleak if they lose to Lyon and United, a win against the champions will close the gap on Sir Alex Ferguson's team to four points.

    If that happens, Liverpool will be back in business, but they certainly cannot afford to lose this week. LINK

    #2
    Originally posted by Bender View Post
    Benítez has struggled in the £3-10m region, though, and players signed for those fees are an important factor. United signed Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra within that bracket and they have developed into two of the most important players in the league. Similarly, Arsenal appear to have done well with Thomas Vermaelen.

    But Benítez hasn't done well with anybody in that price region. Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano and Glen Johnson have been good signings, but they all cost big money.

    Over a length of time, you need four or five players in the £3-10m bracket to become great buys, but I don't see any at Liverpool.
    Hard to disagree with most of that, although this bit is perhaps a bit harsh.

    Reina and Benayoun were in that price range and there aren't many keepers around better than Pepe, and Benayoun has certainly proved his worth on a number of occasions. If he hadn't have been so unlucky with injury you could probably add Agger to that list.

    But then the counter argument might be that that's not very many players in Rafa's whole reign.

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      #3
      yeah that's true

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        #4
        Which bit?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Reece View Post
          Which bit?
          Reina and Benayoun were in that price range and there aren't many keepers around better than Pepe, and Benayoun has certainly proved his worth on a number of occasions. If he hadn't have been so unlucky with injury you could probably add Agger to that list.

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            #6
            Okay, wasn't sure if you meant that or the counter argument bit

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              #7
              Knives are always out after we go through a bad patch. Last year it was the same and just after that we had our best run, beating Real 4-0 and United 4-1 ... History repeating again? I can see us bouncing back and trouncing both Lyon and United.

              There's no way this team is as bad as people make out. We're just suffering from a crisis of confidence.

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                #8
                What the **** is Hansen talking about?

                Agger?
                Reina?
                Benayoun?
                Skrtel? (**** season so far granted but deemed a great buy prior to his dip)
                Insua? (okay he was even less than £3m)
                Kuyt?
                Alonso?

                Bollocks Hansen, absolute bollocks.
                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                  #9
                  Weren't we also in for the examples he gives, both Evra and Vidic, before getting gazumped by United?
                  I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                  Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                  Now all my lies are proved untrue
                  And I must face the men I slew.
                  What tale shall serve me here among
                  Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    What the **** is Hansen talking about?

                    Agger?
                    Reina?
                    Benayoun?
                    Skrtel? (**** season so far granted but deemed a great buy prior to his dip)
                    Insua? (okay he was even less than £3m)
                    Kuyt?
                    Alonso?

                    Bollocks Hansen, absolute bollocks.
                    Agreed. And some of us fans just piling on this doom and gloom at the moment, this is unreal. Where's the Liverpool spirit, walk our way through the storm blah blah blah ... ?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                      What the **** is Hansen talking about?

                      Agger?
                      Reina?
                      Benayoun?
                      Skrtel? (**** season so far granted but deemed a great buy prior to his dip)
                      Insua? (okay he was even less than £3m)
                      Kuyt?
                      Alonso?


                      Bollocks Hansen, absolute bollocks.
                      Were they in the £3m to £10m bracket though?

                      But yeah I do disagree with that point of his as previously mentioned.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Reece View Post
                        Were they in the £3m to £10m bracket though?

                        But yeah I do disagree with that point of his as previously mentioned.
                        Kuyt was, £9.5m iirc.

                        Alonso was £10.7m, close enough
                        I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                        Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                        Now all my lies are proved untrue
                        And I must face the men I slew.
                        What tale shall serve me here among
                        Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                          #13
                          £10m each in my eyes, **** the decimals.
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                            Kuyt was, £9.5m iirc.

                            Alonso was £10.7m, close enough
                            Ah yes so they were

                            For some reason I had it in my head that Kuyt was £11 and Alonso was £14m. In my defence it is monday morning!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Reece View Post
                              Ah yes so they were

                              For some reason I had it in my head that Kuyt was £11 and Alonso was £14m. In my defence it is monday morning!
                              That's their shirt numbers.

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